NJ NJ - Newark, BlkFem UP11246, 30-50, on riverbank, distinctive jewelry, Apr'13

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  1. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    This is a 30-50 year old female of unknown race, 140 pounds, 64 inches. Body found in Passaic River, Newark, New Jersey. Postmortem interval is at least 2 weeks. Had thermal underwear, 4 distinctive necklaces and a watch.

    The jewelry is so distinctive and there is such a lot of it I think people who knew her would definitely remember them and it seems to me like the red, yellow, and the green might mean something. I first thought a reggae fan when I saw them but I guess it might be flag colors. Several countries with that color scheme:
    List of countries by colors of national flags - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    A bigger image available on the Namus site.
    Not listed in the Namus entry but there also seems to be an earring of the pierced type.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/11246
     
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  3. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    Countries with National Flags of Red, Green, & Yellow:
    Benin
    Bolivia
    Burkina Faso
    Cameroon
    Republic of Congo
    Grenada
    Guinea
    Lithuania
    Mali
    Senegal

    And here's a photo of one Lithuanian style cross
     

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  4. monicadc74

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    Could she be Bolivian? The colors match the Bolivian flag. Other countries with those colors seem to be African countries.
     
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    monicadc74 Member

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    I excluded Lithuania based on the pattern of the colors, but the cross really resembles that of the UID.
     
  6. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    I think the crosses may be coptic:

    Copts are primarily from Egypt & Sudan but Canada & the US hold the largest of the diaspora.
     

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  7. reasypeasy

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    Using google images, the closest set of google images to the pictured pendants I can find involves the search words... ethiopian brass coptic cross pendants

    A check of wikipedia indicates that the ethiopian flag is red, green, yellow and blue. The blue is in the central emblem which has changed several times over the years, the red,yellow and green have remained constant.

    I think we may have an Ethiopian Copt here.

    Edited to add: Looks like Tamar was doing pretty much the same searches I was at the same time!
     
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  9. Houston Mom

    Houston Mom Active Member

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    Red gold and green "rasta" shoelaces I think rasta is short for rastafarian
     

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  10. Houston Mom

    Houston Mom Active Member

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    Here is the picture from reasypeasy!
     

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  11. necco

    necco New Member

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    Yep. Rasta shoelaces. Ethiopian Coptic cross.

    I think it's safe to look for a person of African descent, starting with Ethiopians and Jamaicans. (Rastafarians believe that the former Emperor of Ethiopia, Haile Selassie was the incarnation of God. This was because of a prophecy by Marcus Garvey. The religion started in Jamaica.)

    Here is someone selling a very similar piece. (Well, it was sold in Feb.) http://www.etsy.com/listing/104145769/ethiopian-coptic-cross
     
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    necco New Member

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    tamar New Member

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    Necco, it couldn't hurt to contact the Etsian. Just explain the situation.
     
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    necco New Member

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    I just sent it while I still had the nerve. I'll let you know if I hear back.
     
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    Treelights New Member

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    The watch looks similar to a multi-functional diver's watch, and if that is the case, then maybe this UI lived near water, or had activities pertaining to water?
     
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    The thermal underwear coupled with the watch and distinctive necklaces, could mean that this UI was indigenous to a warmer climate, where wearing thermals are not necessary, and the necklaces are indicative of perhaps the area of where she lived, like maybe from the islands, with a diver's type of watch.
    People that are used to a warmer climate, can tend to "freeze" in a colder climate, so maybe it was necessary to wear thermals given that this UI might not be used to colder climates, or was a homeless person, so this UI would be out in the elements, or this UI was traveling a distance, so needed to stay warm in the elements.
     
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    Treelights New Member

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    I apologize for this being my 4th post in a row.
    I just looked up thermal underwear when sailing and this is the information that I read

    In cold weather, thermal underwear is always worn beneath drysuits and dinghy suits. Using [ stretch fleece materials ] that are light and quick drying when wet, such as Polartec, which enables layers of internal warmth to be built up with minimal bulk. When used with a breathable outer suit, they draw perspiration away from the body and dissipates it rather than being trapped on the surface of the skin becoming cold leaving the wearer feeling clammy and wet.

    http://www.working-the-sails.com/sailing_clothing_and_footwear.html
     
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  20. Houston Mom

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    Sounds like they know who she is.
     
  21. necco

    necco New Member

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    The Namus entry was updated after this article, so I think it was a different body.
     

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