NJ NJ - North Wildwood, Male Skull UP1452, 18-38, on beach, Oct'06

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  1. opme

    opme New Member

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    NORTH WILDWOOD, N.J. -- Authorities investigating the discovery of a human skull on a New Jersey beach plan to try to connect the remains with missing-persons cases.



    Britt Wetzel was planning to go fishing Monday when he spotted the bones on a sandbar exposed by an unusually low tide at North Wildwood.





    "I've never seen a human skull outside of biology class," Wetzel told The Press of Atlantic City for Tuesday's newspapers. "But when I looked closer and saw it wasn't plastic or resin, I realized it was real."

    http://cbs3.com/newjerseywire/NJ--SkullonBeach_j_n_0nj--/resources_news_html

    One of the individuals that found the skull indicated there were 2 missing teeth and a hole on the side of the skull ( above the ear area), Authorites later indicated that the skull belonged to an adult female.
     
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  3. HollywoodBound

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    I wonder if the 2 missing teeth fell out as the body decomposed in the water or when the person was living. Also, what caused the large hole, gun shot or something else.
     
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    my first thought is of danielle imbo.... well, i guess it could be her or about a million others...
     
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    For some reason, my first thought was of Anne Marie Fahey. I hope this is able to bring peace to some family out there.
     
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    opme New Member

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    I dont think they have determined if the damage was caused pre or post mortem. It could be the result of the wave action...

    I thought of Danielle Imbo .. but now that you mention Anne Marie Fahey.. that is a likely possibility especially since it was detemrined that her remains were hidden at sea off the coast of NJ.. wouldn't that be great for her family to have at least some closure there and it would definately prove that that creep who murdered her ( Tom Capano) is full of BS and derail hsi attempt to gain a new trial...
     
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    Pharlap Former Member

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    The tide could of bought it in from any where.:waitasec:
    Hope they/we can find out who it belonged to.....
     
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    Wow, I thought the same thing, SisterMadly! It's been so long ~ but who knows? I hope they are able to identify this woman.
     
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  10. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    This is an adult male, about 18-40 years old. Not listed in Doe Network (there were no cases from NJ after 1999 there) but he has an entry in Namus.
    https://identifyus.org/cases/1452
    Dentals are available for the upper jaw. He had lost two teeth postmortem, the others were present and had no fillings.

    His DNA page comments:
    Profiles from both cases above match each other; NCIC# for case 07-5468 is U170021383

    I don't understand what it means. Has his DNA been matched to another UID somewhere? Or the rest of his own body parts?

    This page has a quote saying all the Cape May missing person cases have been ruled out:
    http://s10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/ar/t15392.htm
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    It certainly sounds like they found other body parts that belong to the same individual.
     
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    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    The Namus page for the other discovery:
    https://identifyus.org/cases/1761

    These remains were found November 22, 2007, also in Cape May county.

    Ruled out:
    Gary Dover 1950 Texas
    Ryan Esparza 1990 Texas
     
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    I can't find the bit about a hole in the skull, but this missing person is certainly a possibility. Gregory Snyder, about 29 years old in 2000, was last seen in Ocean City, Maryland, just south of the Delaware border with both an ocean kayak and a 9 mm handgun.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5177/15/
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a good possibility considering how little there is to go on.
     
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    I am contemplating submitting this possible match to Donna Fontana at the NJSP, as there are not that many men known to be missing in the Atlantic Ocean who were suicidal, but one thing concerns me. the skull was on the small side so they originally thought it was female. Gregory Snyder was anywhere from 5'10" to 6'1" and weighed around 260 lbs.

    anyone think this makes the skull not likely to be Snyder's?
     
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    I never submitted this one. does anyone have any comments regarding this possible match, in particular the supposedly small skull size?
     
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    It never hurts to submit a match, especially if you think there is the slightest chance it could be a match.

    Keep in mind DNA for Gregory Snyder has not been entered in CODIS yet. The status is "Initial Inquiry Underway". It could be months before a DNA match could be checked and verified.
     
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    I looked back at the DNA section and it looks like they found other bones on another date. a full 13 months later, they found other unspecified remains in an unspecified town in Cape May County.

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1761
     

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