NO BAIL! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#29

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay General Discussion Threads' started by SoSueMe, May 18, 2012.

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  1. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    There are so many varieties...Acacia baileyana - Cootamundra Wattle is a very pretty wattle...but there's probably quite a few different varieties which grow throughout that area & are suitable. It would all need to be checked out with local council. As someone has mentioned, Paul Tully, may be a good person to contact.

    First & foremost I'd still think out of courtesy to Allison's family, that it gets ok'd with them...they may wish to do something else.
     


  2. UnfoldingTruth

    UnfoldingTruth New Member

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    ha, ha..yes you are right.. unless you get the 'tough bags' (thicker, stronger garbage bags)..
     
  3. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    A lot of folks on here love Hawkins...I love Inspector Ainsworth :).....apologies to Hawkins...lol.
     
  4. WhatTheHey

    WhatTheHey New Member

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    Love this thinking! There are actually quite a few yellow flowering natives that we could add ti the wattle. Goodenia, brachyscome (paper daisy), guinea flower spring to mind. Imagine all that, plus some local wattles! (Fimbiata, disparrima etc)
    Ooh! This could b gorgeous!
    Xx
     
  5. BJsleuth

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    The Lemon-scented Myrtle, would that be appropriate? I love myrtles but I have no idea if it's suitable.
     
  6. Rational

    Rational Former Member

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    We shouldn't be surprised. It is very apparent that he has a high sex drive!
     
  7. BJsleuth

    BJsleuth New Member

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    That's true.
     
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    This one sounds really nice: Hymenosporum flavum, the Native Frangipani, is one such species. This adaptable rainforest tree grown naturally in Qld and NSW, but seems just as happy growing and flowering further south, in Victoria. It must have protection from frosts when plants are young. During late spring and early summer there is an abundant display of delightfully fragrant flowers which are initially cream then change as they age to yellow then deep gold. Fragrant oils which incorporate or replicated the fragrance of this species are now readily available.
     
  9. WhatTheHey

    WhatTheHey New Member

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    Yep- perfect
    Must go, DH certain i have strange addiction.... Is right lol!
     
  10. Rational

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    Just thinking this comment and the one quoted through again. Could it have been a plastic bag over her head fastened with lock ties around her neck. In which case COD would be strangulation or suffocation whichever happened first?
     
  11. Isabellnecessary

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    Plus, ya know, guys do it to relieve stress... it's very common and nothing to do with 'sex' per se...

    I used to work with investment bankers.

    Just change the 'b' to a 'w'.

    One guy three times a day. Said it helped him think more clearly.
     
  12. Bobbie Elliott

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    Blue - I really appreciate this info. I will never again use commercial bird mix containing regular sunflower seeds. The birds have enough to contend with.
    We looked after sick and injured native birds for years and never knew this.

    I really like your idea of a native yellow flower.

    :spring:
     
  13. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    These are all very pretty plants & trees...I have a Native Frangipani, it's gorgeous although took a few years to flower.

    Maybe we make a list & other members can add their suggestions??

    But first the Dickies should be contacted I think. Courier Mail's Allison Sandy may still be in contact with them.
     
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    Which would indicate that her body had been left where it was found, and was not washed down from any other location? See my earlier post of today re suffocation.
     
  15. Rational

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    This is paining me to write this IMO this is what could have occurred:
    ABC comes home from the hairdresser full of confidence and looking good.
    GBC makes some snide comment about how can she spent so much on the hairdresser when he tried to buy something at Woollies and his card got rejected.
    They play pretend happy family until he girls go to bed.
    The remarks keep flying 'how can you spent that much money ?'; 'well if I didn't have to be at the same conference as your bit on the side I wouldn't need to, to make me feel better, how much money do you spent on hotel rooms?'
    GBC goes and has a shower, Allison follows and keeps asking 'why are you having a shower, are you going out?, are you seeing someone else?' She physically starts attacking him and getting more and more angry.
    GBC knows that he does not have much more time before he loans are due to TM, there isn't a hope in hell he can repay by 30 June and knows the only option is the one he has been thinking about which is to do away with Allison so he can get the insurance. Pay out. He has been thinking about it for awhile but decides this is the time.
    He grabs her and pushes her head in he sink until she seems unconscious or dead.
    He goes and grabs some lock ties and a plastic bag, places it over her head and than realises he has to do something to make sure he doesn't get nailed for this. He rings TM and his father from Allison's phone (thinking he will get rid of it with he body ). TM comes over and helps out but they need someone else to drive another car so he rings NGB again this time on FaceTime and says 'please I need to do something, he kids are here alone, I need to get rid of he body and the evidence please help'
    NGB only agrees if he doesn't have to drive his car there so they pick him up a the roundabout. By than he already knows what has happened.
    Someone (don't know who, maybe TM, stays behind to be in the house and starts cleaning up.

    Maybe all too far fetched but in my opinion pretty plausible.
    All IMOO
     
  16. BJsleuth

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    Any kind of asphyxiation may show similarly on an autopsy, the other evidence from the scene is necessary to determine which method caused it. So if there's hand prints on the neck, that's manual strangulation, white around the mouth and nose means a clamped hand and usually there will be nail marks where they dig in during the event or from the victim trying to remove it. Smothering with a pillow or a plastic bag over the head can leave the face white. Ligature will leave a mark around the neck. Sometimes the external "bruises" aren't visible but there will be signs under the skin. Also any items left with the victim can help determine the method used. Compression asphyxia doesn't necessarily leave visible signs, this is where the victim's chest is sat on and the weight compresses them stopping them inhaling.
     
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    just had a thought regarding the plastic bag theory, maybe allison didnt have a shower cap so used a big plastic bag to cover her hair? easy to pull over her face and drown her.
    also, the photo of the blood and luminol in the car, i think it was reported there was only a small amount of blood, and think the majority of the pattern is bleach spray as this is one of the substances that shows up like blood in luminol testing. forensics can tell quite quickly the difference and would have tested the small amount of blood to be allisons.
    the killer obviously went crazy with the bleach spray! imo.
     
  18. Amee

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    Does NBC have a pool? Just wondering if GBC needed bleach and used chlorine or just had normal bleach brought over.
    Just a thought, although probably a silly one
     
  19. ollijack

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    Same here. And Danny. Lol. My heros
     
  20. Even

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    I guess forensics would be able to analyse the water found in the lungs. If it contains chloride and (fluoride I think that is now in brissie water ?) then the drowning didn't occur in the river.
     
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