NO BAIL! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#29

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay General Discussion Threads' started by SoSueMe, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Fuskier

    Fuskier Well-Known Member

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  2. ozazure

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    OMG! Totally Frank Spencer!!!!
     
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    She is going to be needing that talent atm.
     
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    Agree totally. It's just that historically, there hasn't been much opportunity to do it on a large scale.
     

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    As early as in the beginning of April GBC declared to TM quite confidently that he would "sort out his financial situation and they would be together by 1 July 2012." To me, that sounds like a plan.
     
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    mouse detective Veritas Omnia Vincit

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    After finding out about the other women I wonder if this is what TM would like to do to GBC ?
     

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    Yes, thank you ... very helpful!
     
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    Her anger/rage was probably quickly overtaken by sheer horror at what had happened to Allison and the thought of who was apparently responsible. IMO.
     
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    mouse detective Veritas Omnia Vincit

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    I wonder if finding out about GBC's other conquests was the catalyst for her to make statements to the police. I wonder what she would or would not have said to them had they not been in the equation!!
     
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    mouse detective Veritas Omnia Vincit

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    Perhaps she was planning a new career in the Dept of Corrective Services :whip2:
     
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    Thanks for these little titbits Possumheart :) I've always wanted to hear more about Gerard and NBC's personalities/behaviour, and have wondered how similar they are. I would love to know more.

    I was romantically involved with a sociopath many years back (he was diagnosed much later), and he and his father were like two peas from a pod. They both talked fairly incessantly, in a very grandiose manner, to the point of being embarrassing at times. They were enormous liers and manipulators, the webs they wove were unreal. On the surface, they were both charming and intelligent, supposedly an upstanding and fairly prestigious family, and they fooled sooo many people for a long time.

    Both were involved in a myriad of deceit over the years, including highly illegal and unethical acts - fraud, embezzlement, massive amounts of theft, countless affairs and flings, secret pregnancy/child, double lives in different cities, occasional extreme violence, including grievous bodily harm (not towards me thank God). Both were investigated for numerous things apparently, son charged a number of times, but they always got off - they could talk their way out of a paper bag.

    Now I know that it's quite normal for many kids to be similar to a parent, and that being overly talkative certainly doesn't make one a sociopath, but I've thought from day one that Gerard killed Allison, and that it was probably premeditated and maybe for financial reasons. To me this points to possible sociopathy. You'd have to be some kind of monster to plan and carry out the murder of your wife and mother of your 3 children. I've also thought that he probably had help from a family member.

    There's a lot of debate regarding the nature vs nurture thing and sociopathy, but I guess I've always leaned towards the genetic stance moreso.

    Food for thought anyway...

    All MOO
     
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    Great Thumbnails GRANNY.
     
  13. UnfoldingTruth

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    That article made me wonder a few things. They did mention GBC and the iphone and how it was able to tell when it was on the charger or not and about the facetime call.. I am wondering if that whole article was in a way relating to the case, but as yet its information they can not publish..so they did it in a way as to appear a general interest story.(?) MOO
    I found it interesting it mentioned about how photos on the phone can be digitally encrypted to tell where the photo was taken..hmm..wonder if Allisons phone had some of this kind of data they are after and why they were so desperate to find it. as I know phone records and txt records could be found out from the telco..so it was something other than that I think..possibly even fingerprints??
    http://couriermail.com.au/news/technology/big-brother-is-watching/story-fn5tim7x-1226412753683
     
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    That made me :floorlaugh:

    But perhaps the realisation that it could just as easily have gone the other way and been her instead of Alison, that would be more than enough motivation I think.
     
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    UT now that you've mentioned that and fingerprints. Didn't we hear that there were gloves found at Kholo? What a big mistake that would be, they can take prints from the inside of the gloves if that were true.
     
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    I think they have a whole lot more informatin that will make an even mor compelling case. I do not take much from what the defense have said about lack of injury/COD or other information..As yet the prosecution have not given all the evidence and information they have, as this article states..Baden-Clay's defence barrister, Peter Davis, SC, said in his submission supporting Baden-Clay's bail application that "the Crown's case as presently explained rests largely on highly prejudicial evidence that lacks any probative value". His defense are working on what the prosecution presented at the bail hearing, not everything they have and have not yet declared..For a bail hearing there was no need to give all that.

    http://couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/gerard-baden-clay-denies-hes-a-flight-risk-although-charged-with-wife-allisons-murder/story-e6freoof-1226412721085
     
  17. UnfoldingTruth

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    I have wondered about the possibility of drugs being an issue..
     
  18. Crime and punishment

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    Yes I also wondered if the article was about the case (without being overtly so). I wonder what liaison is going on between the QPS and the media as to what information gets drip-fed to us? Or maybe the news being released is to keep those people who are accomplices or accessories after the fact in a state of constant uneasiness in the hope they might crack? Just my opinion of course.
     
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    I agree. The defence will twist ANYTHING to cast enough doubt.
     
  20. UnfoldingTruth

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    Yes interesting..you would think they have some evidence for that..
     
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