NO BAIL! Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 -#30

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay General Discussion Threads' started by SoSueMe, May 18, 2012.

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  1. Fuskier

    Fuskier Well-Known Member

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    It would be wise to notify QPolice about this. It needs to be forensically examined, not left up to the imagination or to be used as psuedo evidence in a case to create reasonable doubt etc. If you want justice for Allison Baden-Clay, then this piece of info needs to go the QPolice.
     


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    Mani New Member

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    To Keentoknow, Blacklodge and other members who have placed flowers at the bridge recently -

    I drove over the bridge yesterday and the flowers looked really beautiful. :)
     
  3. Carolyninoz

    Carolyninoz New Member

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    I am just introducing myself and thank you for allowing me to join. I live in the Blue Mountains of NSW and have been following this case from the beginning. We lived in the hinterland of SE Queensland before moving here 2 years ago.
    I wanted to see what opinions others have re GBC as to whether anyone thinks he may change his pleay to 'guilty' or will he fight to the end claiming innocence. I see it that even if he is guilty (I personally believe he is) that he would still hold out for a not guilty verdict to get his hands on Allison's insurance money. What has he got to lose except time spent in gaol which is going to happen anyway with the delay for a hearing being around 3 years I believe. I really did think that there would have been at least one more arrest by now - still waiting:waitasec:
    Please excuse any spelling errors as I am legally blind in one eye and cannot read a dictionary
    Carolyninoz
     
  4. kalamityk

    kalamityk Inactive

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    Welcome :)
     
  5. Lu-Lu

    Lu-Lu New Member

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    It would also mean that GBC would have to plead guilty to manslaughter. For some reason I can't see him doing that. Admitting any guilt. To me, he seems like the all or nothing type. :cow:
     
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    I went and had a look at that page and i really can't see any reason why Allison couldn't sign up to it herself. It's only driving people around so i really don't see why it should be a problem
     
  7. LauraMars

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    Hi Carolyninoz and welcome :) It must be freezing in the Blue Mountains at the moment as I'm freezing today even in Brissy!

    I don't think he'll plead guilty either. He appears to have no shame whatsoever, despite how harrowing this must be for his children and Allison's parents. I really feel for his poor girls. As much as I'm sure they've got lots of love and support, there is no way that people could totally shield them from all of this. I think even before his arrest, they would have heard things at school etc regarding the public's suspicion of their father.
     
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    HI LJ,

    Given the decline in business post Flood etc, I would suggest that with this level of debt, he would be bordering on trading while insolvent. Not only that, dont think you can be a guarantor either if insolvent. Trick here is cash flow and personal vs deductible business debt.

    Franchise fee debts are nothing to sneeze at and I am speculating that the business also has other debts eg break in the commercial lease at Taringa and possible rent/outgoing arrears, not to mention employee entitlements, including superannuation and taxation obligations. Walls close in very quickly when these things are not met.

    No probs having a $1m debt if you can service it, however, the perceived lifestyle choices eg leasing a Lexus then a Captiva has costs that are only deductible if you are earning a taxable income.

    Add to that his family responsibilities with a wife and three gorgeous daughters - and his extramarital situation which would also cost $ to maintain.... fragile house of cards that one.

    Other people have disappeared in less serious circumstances ie without a murder charge hanging over one's head but with significant debts - so on the balance of probability, I would not be able to rule flight risk out either.

    JMO.
     
  9. Rational

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    Yes he can 16 Durness st Kenmore
     
  10. Fuskier

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    IMO it is not wise to make this assumption that Allison registered herself. This needs to be examined by QPolice Detectives to determine the context around this piece of information. Information can be planted too. Just a thought. There may be many attempts to create reasonable doubt and as others have said, we need to keep an open mind. MOO.
     
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    Yep....I agree that he will neverrrrrrrr admit to guilt, and eventually if not already, he will believe it.....IMO (bastard)

    and welcome. xxxxx
     
  12. Fuskier

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    This piece of info needs to be examined by QPolice to establish if this was true or not. We need to keep an open mind as we may come across attempts to create reasonable doubt. MOO.
     
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    it seems he has done a lot of research and very smart for not speaking to the police or media. he doesnt care what people think of him, i think hes probably planning a new start overseas. he knows if he keeps silent he has a better chance of walking free, so he will plead his innocence all the way.he knows that he has to be proven guilty.
    by doing and saying nothing he has nothing to lose and everything to gain...his freedom!
    if he killed her and it was accidental, he would still do gaol time, he knows all the things he has or hasnt done make him look bad, but peoples opinions dont matter, im sure all he cares about is his freedom and nothing else and now hes fighting for his life. guilty or not, why didnt he just leave allison, they could both be outside today enjoying the sunshine and looking forward to their futures.
     
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    I agree Fuskier, someone could easily have planted this. I found what I think might be the website that was mentioned, but I couldn't see Allison's name under Brisbane. Maybe I was looking at the wrong website.
     
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    Is this part of the post making an accusation that QPolice 'tricked' the Judge? If so, I disagree. IMO the QPolice were legally bound to present their evidence before the Supreme Court Justice Boddice as part of the Bail Hearing. MOO.
     
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    mouse detective Veritas Omnia Vincit

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    Do we assume these loans are to the business or to GBC personally. One thing that has not been mentioned is tax liability.... often the biggest sign that a business is in dire financial straits is that the tax department is about to close it down.
     
  17. Rational

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    Welcome to WS Carolyninoz!!!


    :welcome5:

    You raise an interesting point as I have been wondering why on earth he would not plead guilty, and maybe that is the advice that Mr Mahoney gave him, hence him seeking others advice more to his liking. I think you have hit the nail on the head with a motive for not pleading guilty. What does he have to loose except all his money in legal fees so hence the kind of lawyers that are now coming out of the woodwork!

    All IMO
     
  18. Rational

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    The overseas thing has been worrying me for awhile. Someone suggested a few pages back that he may have been thinking of joining his brother in Canada if he had not been arrested. His brother was at the funeral and left soon after. Do we know when he arrived in Australia? I know we have been focussing on eitherNigelaine or OW as possible accomplices but there may have been more relatives around at the time??
     
  19. kalamityk

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    just a by the by - his brother's face book page shows that he became friends with a Tanya C on the 23rd June :twocents:
     
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    I am in the Mountains as well and it is freezing even though the sun is shining...We had snow on Sunday evening which was beautiful?

    Welcome to WS buckle up because the ride can get bumpy at times!!
     
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