Norway Norway - Oslo, WhtFem 20-30, Fake Name, shot in hotel room, Jun'95

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I love this case. I come back to it again and again. It’s like a movie.

Here is what I think happened. It’s an incomplete hypothesis but answers some of the questions that come up again and again, like the meal and the missing companion.

I think this was a politically motivated killing, by security services or a private operative purporting to be security services. I think it’s tangentially related to the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli prime minister, in November 1995, shortly after the signing of the second Oslo Accord in September 1995, which (arguably) attempted to broker peace between Israel and Palestine. The Oslo Accords are so called because much of the negotiation between Israel and Palestine took place in Oslo, with Norway acting as (again arguably) a neutral third party facilitator. I have tried and failed to find out where the various parties to the negotiations were staying during their time in Oslo, but it’s entirely plausible that the Oslo Plaza may have hosted closely guarded VIPs, including, potentially, Rabin himself. I’ve tried to track his movements through press reports but failed so far to find any specific reference to the first week of June 1995. Suffice to say, this is a hotel that was used regularly by diplomats and visiting foreign dignitaries, and the hotel security staff would be used to liaising and cooperating with outside security/close protection personnel.

There’s been a lot of speculation about what happened to Jennifer’s male companion Lois (imho this is actually Aloïs but was mistranscribed by whoever took the booking). Did he kill her? Was he staying in the same room? What happened to him? Did he even exist?

My belief is that Lois/Aloïs and Jennifer were working together, or that one of them was part of the other one’s cover story, and that they checked in together. I think they were identified as a threat to someone important and an operation to neutralise them was planned. (Alternatively, I think they may have been part of a close protection operation and were identified and neutralised by someone posing as security services.) The hotel security logs show that someone left the room at some point (twice, iirc) so it seems to me that Aloïs left at some point but was dealt with and disposed of elsewhere in the hotel or the city and never returned. The fact that we’ve never heard anything more about him imo means that that all went according to plan and he was excised smoothly from the story.

Spooked by her companion’s non-reappearance, I’m speculating that Jennifer stayed holed up in her room to prevent anyone from, e.g., garotting her in an empty stairwell and smuggling her out in a laundry trolley. She eked out her room service meal over two days because she didn’t know when it was next going to be safe to move. Eventually – perhaps because the arrival of the VIP alleged to be under threat was imminent – a decision was made to force her hand. Reception was asked to send a message about unpaid room service via the in-house system to try and get her to go down to reception with a credit card. I believe that request was spurious because of the large sum of cash we know she gave to the maid who delivered her room service, which – depending on its order of magnitude – may have been payment for the meal itself or may also have been a tip for getting a message delivered discreetly to someone elsewhere in the hotel or beyond. Either way, reception does as they are asked while hotel security plus/minus external operatives wait for her to emerge… except that she doesn’t. She acknowledges each message but doesn’t react. After three attempts someone makes the decision to force entry to the room and neutralise her.

If I think about what might have happened next, I find myself noticing the muddled testimony from the part-time security guard/student, who was hiding something imo. What exactly? Well, here are some suggestions. Perhaps he was persuaded to corroborate a cover story that he couldn’t back away from later for fear of perjury charges, e.g. “Let’s say we had to go in because we thought we heard a gunshot.” Perhaps the reason he didn’t use his two-way radio is because everyone had been told to turn them off to avoid alerting Jennifer - but if he explained that it would blow the covert aspects of what unfolded (or the fact that they had been bamboozled into believing this was an authorised covert operation when it was actually a murder). Perhaps he was sent back downstairs by a colleague (or an outside agent) to keep him from knowing – and blabbing – too much. Or perhaps the poor scared boy absented himself to throw up in a stairwell and his colleagues agreed that they’d cover for him by excluding that from their account of what happened. Any of these, or a combination, might explain the inconsistencies his narrative presents. He is still active on the internet saying he feels a sense of responsibility towards the UID, btw, which suggests to me that some aspect of what happened eats at him.

Whatever the details, once they were in the room, Jennifer was despatched, the gun was wiped and arranged, the scene was staged, various things were moved for whatever reason, perhaps mistakes were made in haste (e.g. the clothes bag was removed instead of the ammunition bag). Any outside agents present then removed themselves from the scene and the hotel called the police and reported an apparent suicide.

Pure speculation/JMO obviously. (Except that Rabin was assassinated 5 months later.)

Yes, I like it. It's perfectly plausible, there's nothing you've written I have issues with.

Yes, the hotel was somewhere that hosted political VIPs and dignitaries, that's what adds to the mystery. If it happened at the Holiday Inn, it wouldn't have such an air of mystery.

Also, the actions of the part-time student security guard always strike me as being not quite right. If only he had entered the room! But then, maybe he was too frightened to, or hotel protocol was not to enter any room in security/safety concerns.
But I wish he'd have stayed outside and used his walkie talkie.

Also, Jennifer's luggage had, at some point, been disposed of, as the room service Maid reported seeing it when she took the meal up. But no luggage, suitcase or clothes were in the room afterwards. So it was obviously important that this went missing.....

MOO.
 

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I'm not following the connection to Rabin--it seems to me she could have been killed for ANY reason--but the rest of what you have written certainly seems possible.

Edited to add: the luggage and her lack of normal clothing for her bottom half has always been the primary sticking point for me. Sure, she could have disposed of things herself when she left the room, but are we reasonably to believe she was out walking around Oslo in just her undergarments? So either the bags, and were in an adjacent room, put there by her or someone else, or ?
 

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I'm not following the connection to Rabin--it seems to me she could have been killed for ANY reason--but the rest of what you have written certainly seems possible.

Edited to add: the luggage and her lack of normal clothing for her bottom half has always been the primary sticking point for me. Sure, she could have disposed of things herself when she left the room, but are we reasonably to believe she was out walking around Oslo in just her undergarments? So either the bags, and were in an adjacent room, put there by her or someone else, or ?

I think this is the main reason that I think there was someone else in a different room that took her belongings with them when they left. I'm not convinced of a political/spy conspiracy at all. I think she died by her own hand because the key card information makes no sense if other people were involved in her death.

I think it's possible that she was either a sex worker (explains the fancy underwear and having another contact in the hotel that she didn't share a room with, a pimp or madam) or the both her and her contact were involved in something potentially criminal. Whether she was supposed to invite a specific person to her room to "entertain"/assassinate (the gun) and the plan fell through and she was abandoned by her companion "for failing" in the hotel with no clothes or money.

Also, perhaps she was having an affair with the person in the other room, they broke it off with her, took all her things/wouldn't let her retrieve her things to humiliate her and she killed herself.

Not many people would want to go to the front desk in their underwear to explain that actually they had no way of paying for the room...
 

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I'm not following the connection to Rabin--it seems to me she could have been killed for ANY reason--but the rest of what you have written certainly seems possible.

Oslo + 1995 + bullet to the head = all points of connection to Rabin. Wasn't there also some Israeli connection with the gun? I can't remember. It's pure speculation anyway and probably well wide of the mark, but I like it.
 

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There was no known Israeli connection anywhere.
Goodness, yeah... why does every mystery has to be interpreted as: "the jews did it"... (same with Isdalen)
As a Jew it rubs me the wrong way.
There are a gazillion other much more likely reasons why she may have died (personal, depression, breakup, sexworker, organized crime, drugs etc.) than having been assasinated by the Mossad... dont want to be rude or disrespectful, but its too much...
 

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I don’t buy the Oslo Accords reasoning:

Negotiations concerning the agreement, an outgrowth of the Madrid Conference of 1991, were conducted secretly in Oslo, Norway, hosted by the Fafo institute, and completed on 20 August 1993; the Oslo Accords were subsequently officially signed at a public ceremony in Washington, D.C., on 13 September 1993,

the answer is probably much simpler.
 

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I don’t buy the Oslo Accords reasoning:

Negotiations concerning the agreement, an outgrowth of the Madrid Conference of 1991, were conducted secretly in Oslo, Norway, hosted by the Fafo institute, and completed on 20 August 1993; the Oslo Accords were subsequently officially signed at a public ceremony in Washington, D.C., on 13 September 1993,

the answer is probably much simpler.

That's the Oslo I accord. The Oslo II accord was signed in September 1995.

Oslo Accords - Wikipedia

I'm not wedded to it though. It's just a hypothesis that makes sense of some of the detail that people have repeatedly struggled to fit into any of the competing scenarios. People are welcome to tweak it, debate it or reject it altogether.

There was no known Israeli connection anywhere.
Goodness, yeah... why does every mystery has to be interpreted as: "the jews did it"... (same with Isdalen)
As a Jew it rubs me the wrong way.
There are a gazillion other much more likely reasons why she may have died (personal, depression, breakup, sexworker, organized crime, drugs etc.) than having been assasinated by the Mossad... dont want to be rude or disrespectful, but its too much...

I don't think this is what I said at all, and it's not what I think either. There was a broad range of opposition to what Rabin was attempting, and an equally broad range of opinions, hypotheses and conspiracy theories about who was ultimately responsible for his assassination.
 

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Rolling in to mention this 2022 Doe Network update:

"Karin Junghänel(2001DFDEU) was reported missing on September 25, 1991. Her case has been closed per law enforcement. No further information is available."

Karin was mentioned many times at the start of this thread as a possible match.
 

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Rolling in to mention this 2022 Doe Network update:

"Karin Junghänel(2001DFDEU) was reported missing on September 25, 1991. Her case has been closed per law enforcement. No further information is available."

Karin was mentioned many times at the start of this thread as a possible match.

She seems much too old though? And also very mysterious. Interesting...
 

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Hello, I'm new to this thread, have just read thru all the comments here and on the related websites.

I have a few questions / points :

- Unsure why anyone would think a young woman would be an intelligence operative / hit woman, it's a real fantastical leap;

- Covert intelligence have their phoney IDs totally set up and don't do things like a) carry guns; b) fail to pay hotel bills; c) badly fill out forms; d) ignore messages from desk;

- The 'suicide story' is also so fantastical and illogical that I'm not even going to bother commenting on that line;

- Hotel staff keenly know that young women come to 'service' their wealthy married, or well known, clients who don't want to openly check in;

- Hotel staff also know that high end escorts come into town for a few days to work / hook;

- Hotel staff know that married men come to meet their lovers in hotels and don't want to check in themselves;

- For the above reasons, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by male hotel staff;

- Likewise, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by random men who know they are alone in a room;

- For the above reasons, the best safety advice for any single woman staying away from home is : always travel with an ALARMED DOOR WEDGE;

- Door wedge / alarm prevents hotel staff using door entry over-rides, doorkeys, to push open the door;

- Some men think 'women are there for the taking' - most especially men who work or reside in hotels observing a young woman conducting a sexual liaison;

- Hotel staff are the best situated to know a woman's comings and goings and whether their male visitor has left;

- In the 90s, it certainly would not be a viable proposition for any female sex worker, escort, or someone having an affair to ring the police to complain of rape;

- The missing underwear and lower garments would surely hint towards that 'Jennifer' had been raped ?

- Rapists in the 90s may not be thinking about DNA so much but they certainly know about semen and bodily fluids;

- What signs of rape were checked for ?

- What signs of drugging were checked for ? Was the food drugged ? Was the soda drink drugged ?

- Which staff delivered the food ? Why did it 'go around the houses' and be delivered to the wrong room ?

- How can hotel food be ordered to the wrong room ? What a coincidence the 'wrong room' was the one over the corridor ? How was the right room established ?

- The food was a 'hot snack' ... It would have gone cold. Was it refreshed and replaced ?

- Did 'Jennifer' eat a small part of food with a drink then pass out stone cold ? Is that why the food didn't digest ?

- Were the soda drinks drugged ? Were they checked for drugs ? Did the attacker neatly put the tops on but forget to remove them when clearing out ?

- Did the person who delivered the food arrive at the room to find 'Jennifer' in an inhebriated / drugged state already and make an impromptu sex attack on her ?

- Did someone leave her for dead from being drugged ? Then come back later armed with a gun to shoot her to cover their crime, knowing they could be identified ?

- Did someone know to come and shoot her dead when they saw that she had acknowledged the desk message (ie she was alive and active) ?

- Did someone drug and assault 'Jennifer' leave her alive but overdosed, have a shower, clean up, take her belongings, come back the next day and shoot her dead ?

- Her body looks extremely 'relaxed' - the legs, the hands, for someone fighting off a gun man, no cuts no scratches no torn clothes, no ripped tights ... was she still sedated ?

- If a shooter had straddled 'Jennifer's' body, knees either side of her waist, with her arms tucked under, to shoot her at point blank range from in front, could that explain no blood spatter to her hands ?

- Is it not more likely, say, the hotel staffer entered her room, pushed her over, and shot her dead, then hid somewhere washing hands, gathering their thoughts ?

- Did the shooter leave the bag with bullets and it was not in fact 'Jennifers' but theirs and could not be explained or reclaimed so they left it ?

- Why did the hotel security staffer decide the best thing to do with a gunman on the rampage would be to hide for 15 minutes ?

- Why did the man Mr F opposite know about this death 12 hours before it happened ? Was it his room the food order came via ?

- Why did the authorities fail to investigate ANY of this ?

- Why did they even say they're unsure of her hair colour - it is super easy to see if a person's hair colour is naturally black, they have black eyebrows and eyelashes, black body hair and pubic hair, it's not rocket science and doesn't even require testing ?

Makes no sense whatsoever and sadly the most likely cause of death of a young single woman in a hotel room is she was raped and murdered.

So sad that a young woman's life meant nothing to anyone at the time :( :( :( If I worked in that hotel, I'd be going out of my mind wanting answers but, hey, hookers are trash right...
 
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Hello, I'm new to this thread, have just read thru all the comments here and on the related websites.

I have a few questions / points :

- Unsure why anyone would think a young woman would be an intelligence operative / hit woman, it's a real fantastical leap;

- Covert intelligence have their phoney IDs totally set up and don't do things like a) carry guns; b) fail to pay hotel bills; c) badly fill out forms; d) ignore messages from desk;

- The 'suicide story' is also so fantastical and illogical that I'm not even going to bother commenting on that line;

- Hotel staff keenly know that young women come to 'service' their wealthy married, or well known, clients who don't want to openly check in;

- Hotel staff also know that high end escorts come into town for a few days to work / hook;

- Hotel staff know that married men come to meet their lovers in hotels and don't want to check in themselves;

- For the above reasons, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by male hotel staff;

- Likewise, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by random men who know they are alone in a room;

- For the above reasons, the best safety advice for any single woman staying away from home is : always travel with an ALARMED DOOR WEDGE;

- Door wedge / alarm prevents hotel staff using door entry over-rides, doorkeys, to push open the door;

- Some men think 'women are there for the taking' - most especially men who work or reside in hotels observing a young woman conducting a sexual liaison;

- Hotel staff are the best situated to know a woman's comings and goings and whether their male visitor has left;

- In the 90s, it certainly would not be a viable proposition for any female sex worker, escort, or someone having an affair to ring the police to complain of rape;

- The missing underwear and lower garments would surely hint towards that 'Jennifer' had been raped ?

- Rapists in the 90s may not be thinking about DNA so much but they certainly know about semen and bodily fluids;

- What signs of rape were checked for ?

- What signs of drugging were checked for ? Was the food drugged ? Was the soda drink drugged ?

- Which staff delivered the food ? Why did it 'go around the houses' and be delivered to the wrong room ?

- How can hotel food be ordered to the wrong room ? What a coincidence the 'wrong room' was the one over the corridor ? How was the right room established ?

- The food was a 'hot snack' ... It would have gone cold. Was it refreshed and replaced ?

- Did 'Jennifer' eat a small part of food with a drink then pass out stone cold ? Is that why the food didn't digest ?

- Were the soda drinks drugged ? Were they checked for drugs ? Did the attacker neatly put the tops on but forget to remove them when clearing out ?

- Did the person who delivered the food arrive at the room to find 'Jennifer' in an inhebriated / drugged state already and make an impromptu sex attack on her ?

- Did someone leave her for dead from being drugged ? Then come back later armed with a gun to shoot her to cover their crime, knowing they could be identified ?

- Did someone know to come and shoot her dead when they saw that she had acknowledged the desk message (ie she was alive and active) ?

- Did someone drug and assault 'Jennifer' leave her alive but overdosed, have a shower, clean up, take her belongings, come back the next day and shoot her dead ?

- Her body looks extremely 'relaxed' - the legs, the hands, for someone fighting off a gun man, no cuts no scratches no torn clothes, no ripped tights ... was she still sedated ?

- If a shooter had straddled 'Jennifer's' body, knees either side of her waist, with her arms tucked under, to shoot her at point blank range from in front, could that explain no blood spatter to her hands ?

- Is it not more likely, say, the hotel staffer entered her room, pushed her over, and shot her dead, then hid somewhere washing hands, gathering their thoughts ?

- Did the shooter leave the bag with bullets and it was not in fact 'Jennifers' but theirs and could not be explained or reclaimed so they left it ?

- Why did the hotel security staffer decide the best thing to do with a gunman on the rampage would be to hide for 15 minutes ?

- Why did the man Mr F opposite know about this death 12 hours before it happened ? Was it his room the food order came via ?

- Why did the authorities fail to investigate ANY of this ?

- Why did they even say they're unsure of her hair colour - it is super easy to see if a person's hair colour is naturally black, they have black eyebrows and eyelashes, black body hair and pubic hair, it's not rocket science and doesn't even require testing ?

Makes no sense whatsoever and sadly the most likely cause of death of a young single woman in a hotel room is she was raped and murdered.

So sad that a young woman's life meant nothing to anyone at the time :( :( :( If I worked in that hotel, I'd be going out of my mind wanting answers but, hey, hookers are trash right...

How would she be able to identify this person if she was unconscious because of the supposed spiking? So therefore why would he “come back with a gun” to stop her identifying him?

Digestion continues when unconscious, so that wouldn’t have stopped if she passed out stone cold.

I hear what you’re saying that escorts are certainly in real danger a lot of the time. There is something off with how the hotel handled this guest from check in to when the shots were supposedly heard. If she was a prostitute though, I think there’s something more to it - the involvement of a gun for starters is a red flag. If this kind of attack is so common then you’d have prostitutes being shot in hotels all over the place.

There’s a higher level of conspiracy with this case I think.
 

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How would she be able to identify this person if she was unconscious because of the supposed spiking? So therefore why would he “come back with a gun” to stop her identifying him?

Digestion continues when unconscious, so that wouldn’t have stopped if she passed out stone cold.

I hear what you’re saying that escorts are certainly in real danger a lot of the time. There is something off with how the hotel handled this guest from check in to when the shots were supposedly heard. If she was a prostitute though, I think there’s something more to it - the involvement of a gun for starters is a red flag. If this kind of attack is so common then you’d have prostitutes being shot in hotels all over the place.

There’s a higher level of conspiracy with this case I think.

I meant to say perhaps the person who say, delivered the food, or poured her a drink, spiked her. Maybe left her door completely unlocked (is that possible) and came in and out multiple times.

Might not have been a hotel staff so much as someone else in the hotel she'd got chatting to. But could identify or describe.

People don't generally murder people unless they want them to stop talking, forever.

Maybe she was a drug user ? Heroin ? Maybe someone came used drugs with her, a dealer perhaps ? Got a bit out of hand ?

Still goes no way to explain the remarkable coincidence of the shot being at exactly the same time as the hotel staffer went to the room.

Why on earth would they stand in the corridor for 15 minutes ? The gun man could come out shoot them next.

So, instead we are supposed to believe a gun man has fired twice, and shot someone dead at point blank range, then instead of leaving IMMEDIATELY to avoid any detection, running down the emergency fire exit stairwell or such... they stayed in the room for at least the whole of the 15 minutes the hotel staffer was simultaneously hiding ?

Then where did they go ? They left the room, after taking things at their leisure, leaving in the exact tiny time frame - being just after the hotel staffer left hiding whilst also just before the hotel staffer had alerted all staff and security ??

The killer went to great lengths to remove personal property of the deceased. They would not have left carrying these belongings as then they would be immediately identified as a murderer. They came and went. I'm sure of it.

Hotels had CCTV on their premises back in those days, at least in the entrances and over the desks... grainy black and white but not too terrible, often not good enough quality to be admitted in court to convict but certainly good enough to identify people coming and going.

Doesn't add up none of it.
 

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I meant to say perhaps the person who say, delivered the food, or poured her a drink, spiked her. Maybe left her door completely unlocked (is that possible) and came in and out multiple times.

Might not have been a hotel staff so much as someone else in the hotel she'd got chatting to. But could identify or describe.

People don't generally murder people unless they want them to stop talking, forever.

Maybe she was a drug user ? Heroin ? Maybe someone came used drugs with her, a dealer perhaps ? Got a bit out of hand ?

Still goes no way to explain the remarkable coincidence of the shot being at exactly the same time as the hotel staffer went to the room.

Why on earth would they stand in the corridor for 15 minutes ? The gun man could come out shoot them next.

So, instead we are supposed to believe a gun man has fired twice, and shot someone dead at point blank range, then instead of leaving IMMEDIATELY to avoid any detection, running down the emergency fire exit stairwell or such... they stayed in the room for at least the whole of the 15 minutes the hotel staffer was simultaneously hiding ?

Then where did they go ? They left the room, after taking things at their leisure, leaving in the exact tiny time frame - being just after the hotel staffer left hiding whilst also just before the hotel staffer had alerted all staff and security ??

The killer went to great lengths to remove personal property of the deceased. They would not have left carrying these belongings as then they would be immediately identified as a murderer. They came and went. I'm sure of it.

Hotels had CCTV on their premises back in those days, at least in the entrances and over the desks... grainy black and white but not too terrible, often not good enough quality to be admitted in court to convict but certainly good enough to identify people coming and going.

Doesn't add up none of it.

Agreed!
 

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re: - For the above reasons, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by male hotel staff

I've wondered if "Jennifer" was killed by another woman, personally. I have no viable theory as to which woman, but it is just something that I have chewed on.
 

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re: - For the above reasons, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by male hotel staff

I've wondered if "Jennifer" was killed by another woman, personally. I have no viable theory as to which woman, but it is just something that I have chewed on.

Could be. No solid reason as to why women cannot perpetrate murder except that it's overwhelmingly men who do.

Also going on the illicit liaison / sex crime theme that I have, generally speaking men rape prostitutes opportunistically and that causes them to then murder. They are also likely to be larger framed and therefore more able to overpower a woman.

It's possible to be a spurned lover, jealous wife, angry other woman, female hotel staff BUT that leaves a glaring problem of the very odd behaviour of the young security staffer...
 

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There were female bosses, correct? I forget exactly what we noticed last year, will go back and re-read when I have time later, but I think I remember a discussion about very different accounts among some of the higher level hotel staff?

The security guard was young, so whatever took place he was likely frightened and under a lot of stress. I'm not sure what I think? He may have been hiding something. He may have been threatened. He may have been directly involved.

A woman around your age dead in her room would really be something though, wouldn't it? That isn't an ordinary shift...
 

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Oslo + 1995 + bullet to the head = all points of connection to Rabin. Wasn't there also some Israeli connection with the gun? I can't remember. It's pure speculation anyway and probably well wide of the mark, but I like it.

I'm not seeing any facts at all which might connect her, or her death, to Rabin, the Israeli state or anything remotely close to that.

The gun was, if my memory serves me, built up from an upper with North American markings and a receiver which was likely made in Hungary by FEG. I've not seen anything mentioned about the ammunition but Israel Military Industries make copious amounts of 9mm ammo so that may be a connection. It doesn't tie it to anything "Israeli" in terms of why she died though.
 

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Hello, I'm new to this thread, have just read thru all the comments here and on the related websites.

I have a few questions / points :

- Unsure why anyone would think a young woman would be an intelligence operative / hit woman, it's a real fantastical leap;

- Covert intelligence have their phoney IDs totally set up and don't do things like a) carry guns; b) fail to pay hotel bills; c) badly fill out forms; d) ignore messages from desk;

- The 'suicide story' is also so fantastical and illogical that I'm not even going to bother commenting on that line;

- Hotel staff keenly know that young women come to 'service' their wealthy married, or well known, clients who don't want to openly check in;

- Hotel staff also know that high end escorts come into town for a few days to work / hook;

- Hotel staff know that married men come to meet their lovers in hotels and don't want to check in themselves;

- For the above reasons, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by male hotel staff;

- Likewise, all around the world, single women are frequently judged, attacked, raped, murdered by random men who know they are alone in a room;

- For the above reasons, the best safety advice for any single woman staying away from home is : always travel with an ALARMED DOOR WEDGE;

- Door wedge / alarm prevents hotel staff using door entry over-rides, doorkeys, to push open the door;

- Some men think 'women are there for the taking' - most especially men who work or reside in hotels observing a young woman conducting a sexual liaison;

- Hotel staff are the best situated to know a woman's comings and goings and whether their male visitor has left;

- In the 90s, it certainly would not be a viable proposition for any female sex worker, escort, or someone having an affair to ring the police to complain of rape;

- The missing underwear and lower garments would surely hint towards that 'Jennifer' had been raped ?

- Rapists in the 90s may not be thinking about DNA so much but they certainly know about semen and bodily fluids;

- What signs of rape were checked for ?

- What signs of drugging were checked for ? Was the food drugged ? Was the soda drink drugged ?

- Which staff delivered the food ? Why did it 'go around the houses' and be delivered to the wrong room ?

- How can hotel food be ordered to the wrong room ? What a coincidence the 'wrong room' was the one over the corridor ? How was the right room established ?

- The food was a 'hot snack' ... It would have gone cold. Was it refreshed and replaced ?

- Did 'Jennifer' eat a small part of food with a drink then pass out stone cold ? Is that why the food didn't digest ?

- Were the soda drinks drugged ? Were they checked for drugs ? Did the attacker neatly put the tops on but forget to remove them when clearing out ?

- Did the person who delivered the food arrive at the room to find 'Jennifer' in an inhebriated / drugged state already and make an impromptu sex attack on her ?

- Did someone leave her for dead from being drugged ? Then come back later armed with a gun to shoot her to cover their crime, knowing they could be identified ?

- Did someone know to come and shoot her dead when they saw that she had acknowledged the desk message (ie she was alive and active) ?

- Did someone drug and assault 'Jennifer' leave her alive but overdosed, have a shower, clean up, take her belongings, come back the next day and shoot her dead ?

- Her body looks extremely 'relaxed' - the legs, the hands, for someone fighting off a gun man, no cuts no scratches no torn clothes, no ripped tights ... was she still sedated ?

- If a shooter had straddled 'Jennifer's' body, knees either side of her waist, with her arms tucked under, to shoot her at point blank range from in front, could that explain no blood spatter to her hands ?

- Is it not more likely, say, the hotel staffer entered her room, pushed her over, and shot her dead, then hid somewhere washing hands, gathering their thoughts ?

- Did the shooter leave the bag with bullets and it was not in fact 'Jennifers' but theirs and could not be explained or reclaimed so they left it ?

- Why did the hotel security staffer decide the best thing to do with a gunman on the rampage would be to hide for 15 minutes ?

- Why did the man Mr F opposite know about this death 12 hours before it happened ? Was it his room the food order came via ?

- Why did the authorities fail to investigate ANY of this ?

- Why did they even say they're unsure of her hair colour - it is super easy to see if a person's hair colour is naturally black, they have black eyebrows and eyelashes, black body hair and pubic hair, it's not rocket science and doesn't even require testing ?

Makes no sense whatsoever and sadly the most likely cause of death of a young single woman in a hotel room is she was raped and murdered.

So sad that a young woman's life meant nothing to anyone at the time :( :( :( If I worked in that hotel, I'd be going out of my mind wanting answers but, hey, hookers are trash right...

Too much to really address here (although I don't agree with most of it) but the suicide theory is not at all "fantastical". Her thumb was still firmly pressing the trigger of the gun in it's most rearward position. That in itself makes suicide very likely, if not the most likely explanation for her death.

If her arms were "tucked under" her then how did the gun end up in the position and state which it did? It would have had to be transferred from the shooter's hand to hers all the while whilst holding the trigger fully rearward. That would be a very neat trick for anyone to accomplish.
 

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There were female bosses, correct? I forget exactly what we noticed last year, will go back and re-read when I have time later, but I think I remember a discussion about very different accounts among some of the higher level hotel staff?

The security guard was young, so whatever took place he was likely frightened and under a lot of stress. I'm not sure what I think? He may have been hiding something. He may have been threatened. He may have been directly involved.

A woman around your age dead in her room would really be something though, wouldn't it? That isn't an ordinary shift...

I imagine that anyone who intends to shoot someone dead in a hotel room would be ready to make a sharp exit, knowing that the shot will have been heard.

I wonder if the shooter crossed paths with security - or interacted with security at the hotel room door - and threatened him. Maybe told him, you haven't seen me, stand there for 15 minutes and don't move. I imagine exiting a room after a shooting, they would have somewhat covered their face with a scarf and hat so the young security didn't see their face. Possibly went to a different room but more likely would have wanted to flee the premises, avoiding any questioning from the police.
 
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