NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #1

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  1. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2ยข.

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    Well that's just sad. I guess maybe people were in a panic but I'd have let them in my car. Maybe that wouldn't be the safest thing to do but I couldn't turn someone away, who was fleeing a massacre, same as me.
     


  2. epiphany

    epiphany Well-Known Member

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    Shooter's Brother:


    Peter Alexander‏Verified account @PeterAlexander 1h1 hour ago

    NEW: Shooter's brother says their father was Patrick Benjamin Paddock, a bank robber who he says was on FBI Most Wanted list. @tracyconnor


    https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander
     
  3. Hraefn

    Hraefn Verified Attorney

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    It does look like it could be one of the Vista Suites

    ETA: Those even look like the same curtains coming through the broken windows.
     
  4. cady

    cady Well-Known Member

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    Wonder if this was long=simmering payback for his father being busted. In 1960, he would have been 7 years old.....weird. But Dad busted in Las Vegas and son gets revenge in Las Vegas over a half century later???? Maybe just a coincidence......JMO
     
  5. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    At one conference last night, some idiot asked about the emotions of the people who are finding out their relatives are deceased. Sheriff just walked off---look on his face was "what an idiotic question".

    moo
     
  6. fred&edna

    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a subscription and can't see the article clearly.

    Is this the same info? (Apologies if I'm duplicating)

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/24743659/


    "A three-time bank robber, Patrick Benjamin Paddock, alias Benjamin Hoskins Paddock and Benjamin Hoskins Jr., 34, Tucson was indicted on three count* of robbing Phoenix branches of the Valley National Bank. HE IS accused of obtaining 811,210 from the W. Van Buren branch on Feb. 19, 1959; $9,285 from the same branch on Jtn. 29, 1960; and $4,620 from the 1845 E. McDowell branch last July 26. Paddock, a Tucson garbage disposal sales and service man, was arrested in Las Vegas, Nev., after his most recent Phoenix robbery."
     
  7. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if some people standing were trying to see where their family members/friends were. I'm sure people got separated, which is so scary.

    jmo
     
  8. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Wow. Weird coincidence.
     
  9. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    CNN reporter saying housekeeping went into the room a couple of times over the weekend, but saw nothing unusual.

    He checked in last Thursday, had 10 guns with him. He must have hidden them pretty well.
     
  10. Tawny

    Tawny Bye

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    This is unrelated to the Harvest Christian Fellowship. It was a SiriusXM event.
     
  11. FlossyMay

    FlossyMay Well-Known Member

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    I have noticed that a lot lately with reporters. They ask some really stupid questions.
     
  12. Tawny

    Tawny Bye

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    Or maybe kept them in his car until he wanted them.
     
  13. killer Chaser

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    Lucky it was a hot August day and there wasn't that many people out.
     
  14. Bravo

    Bravo Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if he was slowly transferring guns and ammo from a car up to his room? One or two bags at a time would not attract attention. Thinking sports type bags???
     
  15. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Thank you, that explains it, unless they count the 2 rooms of the suite as 2 separate rooms. I could not figure out any layout in the suites that would include that busted window further to the medial of the building. Thus perhaps he had a (possibly "vista" 180 degree view, that's the same I stayed in) suite and a regular room adjacent to it with connection doors.

    I found a pic I took through the lounge area/ den window and the bedroom window (second night view pic). It shows how far the fairgrounds are:

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  16. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    The story at the link I posted was from 24 Aug 1960, but it has similar info in the lede.

    "Paddock was returned here from Las Vegas, NV where he was nabbed July 28 by FBI agents."

    Same info about three bank robberies in Phoenix.
     
  17. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    This happened when the shooter was a kid. He was born in '54 IIRC. Definitely could influence a kid.

    Funny he grew up to be an accountant/auditor - jobs that keep track of money.

    jmo
     
  18. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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  19. luvhockey

    luvhockey Well-Known Member

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    As easy as wheeling them into the hotel in a suitcase and leaving them in the closed suitcase until after housekeeping came in that morning. Once they've done stuff that morning he had all day to set stuff up.
     
  20. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    I can't find anything saying that it is either.

    Route 91 Harvest Festival
    http://rt91harvest.com/#

    https://twitter.com/Route91Harvest
    A three day country music festival on the Las Vegas Strip / Sept 29- Oct 1!

    https://www.facebook.com/Route91Harvest/
    Las Vegas goes country Sept 29- Oct 1, 2017 at Route 91 Harvest! 3 days of country music on the Vegas Strip! Sign up for updates at www.rt91harvest.com

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