NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

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  1. bears10

    bears10 Well-Known Member

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    On mobile so idk how to formally quote, but some things that caught my eye from this link https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/...gambling.html?referer=https://www.google.com/


    Mr. Paddock was also a “starer,” Mr. Weinreich said.
    “He loved to stare at other people playing,” he said. “It was not a good thing because it would make other VIPs in the high-limit area uncomfortable.”
    “One of my guests once said to me, ‘He really gives me the creeps.’”

    “Video poker is the crack cocaine of gambling,” Mr. Curtis said.
    There are no opponents. There is no bluffing or worrying about competitors’ hands. Generally, five cards are drawn from a refreshed 52-card virtual deck — instantly on the video screen — and players decide which ones to “hold,” or keep, and which ones to exchange for new cards. Players calculate the possibilities remaining in the 47 other cards.

    It is a game of coldly calculated probabilities, played without hunches or emotion.
    “Gut feel has nothing to do with it,” said Bob Dancer, a professional video poker player in Las Vegas who has written 10 books on the subject. “If I have a feeling that says, ‘I’m going for another heart,’ then I will lie down until the feeling goes away.”

    He always carried two cellphones, each with a different carrier, in case one network was down.
     
  2. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    Pamela_Brewer New Member

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  4. bears10

    bears10 Well-Known Member

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    Agree. Plus weed lasts like an hour. It’s not something that will cause you to stockpile weapons over the course of a year to kill 58 people.
     
  5. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    How exactly would he think he could have escaped? He was on 32nd floor, it's not like he could have jumped out. Did he plan to shoot then leave the room quickly, but security guard destroyed those plans?
     
  6. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    I never implied that the shooter was high on weed.

    I was making a comparison to drugs that are supposed to calm someone down, and how they cannot do that effectively if there is simmering anger simmering below the surface.

    ETA; sorry if I misunderstood your post. :wave:
     
  7. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    I was not saying anything about this killer smoking pot.
     
  8. mrsu

    mrsu Well-Known Member

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    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/us/stephen-paddock-gambling.html

     
  9. Cryptic

    Cryptic Well-Known Member

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    My guess is that he used the term "professional gambler" to mean:

    Professional Gambler (n) An independently wealthy person who does not need to work and who has sufficient wealth from investments or inheritances to sustain his gambling hobby indefinitely.

    Also intelligent people who spend mind numbing amounts of time playing select video poker / slot machines can evidently start to figure out parts of the algorithms that produce the "random" (but not truly random in the mathematical sense) hands of cards / wheel results by trial and error. The software also needs to conform to legal requirements, thus probably presenting other approaches for study.

    Such people can then limit their losses, or in some cases, actually achieve a small advantage through perfect play over long periods of time. The casinos don't take chances, so they change out machines / algorithms. On one occasion, they banned a former nurse turned addict whose classes to other junkies on playing a specific model(s) of video slot machine(s) were too good for casino comfort.
     
  10. dizzychick

    dizzychick Well-Known Member

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    no way would she have done that even if she knew he was cray cray, just my opinion but he chose her for a reason, she was passive, quite, submissive etc all the things he wanted in a partner, maid, lover etc. She would not want to jepordize what she got out of the deal. No more working as a waitress at her age.
     
  11. jjenny

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    Pot, valium, the same idea applies. Even if it makes someone angry and aggressive, how is it going to cause them to meticulously plan a murder?
     
  12. Gardenista

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    Super interesting.
     
  13. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    No one saw him. He could have snuck out and blended in easily, and been long gone before they found the room. Maybe that's why he stopped.
     
  14. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    He may have booked the adjacent room(s) under a different name. If he booked a block of rooms in different names, he could have just walked through the connection doors and possibly exited as hotel personnel with ID. Well, but he didn't.

    -Nin
     
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    Makes me wonder if he had another room booked somewhere else in the hotel. He could have made it to that room and if what Fox News just reported is accurate, if he had succeeded in blowing up those tanks filled with fuel, that would have been the distraction that he would have needed to make it out of the 2nd room unnoticed as all attention would be on the venue.


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  16. jjenny

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    He stopped after he shot the security guard. At that time other people were outside. There was no way for him to escape the room by using his door.
     
  17. bears10

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    He may have targeted jet fuel tanks but wasn’t able to penetrate them according to Fox News TV channel
     
  18. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    So why didn't he? If he could have walked through connecting rooms somewhere else, why didn't he do it? Clearly he had plenty of time.
     
  19. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    Hi you

    I agree at this point in time we should know from someone other than a disconnected brother about his financial
    stuff in a concrete manner moo
     
  20. dizzychick

    dizzychick Well-Known Member

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    I have a question about the bullets that came out of a gun like the shooter used. How big are they? Is it like a BB or a large bullet that takes down an elephant? Sorry im totally a no gun type chick, my iron skillet is what I thought I would use should the occasion arrise
     
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