NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #6

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I don't think it's hype. With no known motive, they pretty much have to address it, leave no stone unturned.

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But see this is my issue with him . He imo should have just said when asked we are awaiting more info before we can determine if their are any brain abnormalities.

guys we follow investigators - we are used to that kind of answer in the beginning !!

but he seems to keep getting into trouble and more and more - as the FBI dude is standing closer and closer . !!!!!!!

I would be scared of the FBI dude as well
 
"effed up" plan. The plan went awry but the guy on the 32nd floor left trails of what was supposed to happen. He shot at those tanks. His shots did nothing without the car full of explosives. He did what was planned and what he trained to do, regardless. He shot at the tanks.
 
Some members of the media were at the Route 91 Festival, including the Country writer Mark Gray of Rolling Stone. His review can't have been anything he'd imagined writing in a million years --

"Get down, stay down." Those are the words that I'm hearing as gunshots are ringing out around me. Just moments before, I was listening to Jason Aldean sing "When She Says Baby" during his set at the Route 91 Harvest Festival.

In the beginning, it sounded like two firecrackers going off.

I was standing outside suite 5, directly across from Mandalay Bay on the southern end of the Las Vegas Strip, when the noise began. Two of my friends felt a ricochet of something. "What was that?" one friend wondered as she reached down at her leg. "My leg stings." The other said, "I just felt something, too." A girl near me started screaming hysterically.

Then, there was about 30 seconds of silence and confusion and then pop, pop, pop, pop. And then more pop, pop, pop, pop. Aldean and his band fled the stage and the music stopped.

I ran into the suite with about 40 other people. Some people got behind a refrigerator. Most people got on the ground. I was one of those people on the ground.

People started pouring through the door looking for safety. People started climbing through the windows........(more)"

http://www.rollingstone.com/country/news/las-vegas-shooting-what-it-was-like-at-w506517

Thats brilliant.
Thanks for sharing it.
 
Do we have a source link for the phone # purported to belong to SP that was posted and unapproved? If no source link, the posts won't be reapproved.

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No way he was working alone. Of course, video isn't being released. It's like putting all your cards on the table. They're playing bluff. Trying to suss out others. Not dishonest. Trying to pull others out. I think that's the same reason the timeline has been f'd up. They tried an incorrect narrative to try to get a "bite". To see if something would surface.

moo

Totally concur.

The whole basic premise of him being a millionaire came solely from Eric -- not exacly a good source of info.!

We know for sure from Eric that money matters a lot for him in terms of feeling like a success.

His home looks middle class. He has a reg car in his driveway. He strikes me moo as a guy who be in a flasy car if he had all this money.

jmo

after the hurricane the brother mailed his mother a walker

millionaires can pick up there own walkers !!

Look at the global response to him .

He claims he works with his brother -- they were landlords then

one really thinks someone would rent or buy from a person that wigs people out !!

Would you ??

jmo

this was not just my opinion! Internationally he was bezaire !!
 
I thought it was footage of him walking about town, I did not think it was hotel footage..?

-I went back to read our thread. Not completed yet, close-maybe 95%. It will make sense as to why so much to date has not made sense.

Roughly (no pen & paper for sure) what I saw most repeated is the timeline and the time in between SG and LE arrival. Followed by this group: number of rooms, rounds, bullets, guns and minutes.
 
How many mental illnesses are undiagnosed?

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Schizophrenia is a severe mental illness. Look up the cognitive symptoms and then look at how this guy functioned in business. I have not seen any of the symptoms suggested about him by anyone who knew him. He would have needed antipsychotics to function as well as he did.

Yes, many mental illnesses do go undiagnosed, but you have picked out a very severe one that almost certainly would not have.

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Schizophrenia is a severe mental illness. Look up the cognitive symptoms and then look at how this guy functioned in business. I have not seen any of the symptoms suggested about him by anyone who knew him. He would have needed antipsychotics to function as well as he did.

Yes, many mental illnesses do go undiagnosed, but you have picked out a very severe one that almost certainly would not have.

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I just saying my first thought wouldn't be brain tumour. Jmo

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But see this is my issue with him . He imo should have just said when asked we are awaiting more info before we can determine if their are any brain abnormalities.

guys we follow investigators - we are used to that kind of answer in the beginning !!

but he seems to keep getting into trouble and more and more - as the FBI dude is standing closer and closer . !!!!!!!

I would be scared of the FBI dude as well
He did say that. You aren't reading all of my replies to you because I already replied to you before and pointed out that the first time he spoke about the brain, in the same sentence where he said it appeared fine, he also stated it was going to undergo further testing.

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"effed up" plan. The plan went awry but the guy on the 32nd floor left trails of what was supposed to happen. He shot at those tanks. His shots did nothing without the car full of explosives. He did what was planned and what he trained to do, regardless. He shot at the tanks.


wow that is chilling thought the bomb stuff and the aviation fuel

boy that would have taken out someones hotel and casino wouldn't it

maybe now I understand why that guy is under security these are serious folks

whew
 
The thing is I wasn't there and it's heard it a ton of times and it still doesn't sound like gunfire to me. Nor have I heard the same sound again during his rampage. moo

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It's reported that "incediary" rounds were fired at the fuel tanks, but I've no idea if that makes a different sound but the tanks were in a slightly different direction as well.

I suppose in his demented head the tanks could've represented a likely initial target to start things off in a big way, but purely my speculation. Fortunately the explosion didn't happen.
 
Schizophrenia is a severe mental illness. Look up the cognitive symptoms and then look at how this guy functioned in business. I have not seen any of the symptoms suggested about him by anyone who knew him. He would have needed antipsychotics to function as well as he did.

Yes, many mental illnesses do go undiagnosed, but you have picked out a very severe one that almost certainly would not have.

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A schiphrenic would have never been able to carry this out.
 
If I was at a music festival, laid back, having a good time and I heard that sound, at first I'd rationale it to be firecrackers or fireworks as well. Wouldn't you? How many of us immediately recognize gunfire? Were the first two shots at the fuel tanks I wonder?
Yes. The first 2 shots were at the tanks as per one of Sheriff's statements which I cant search for now cos have ill animals and busy.. but thats what threw the timeline off completely
Thats part of the reason we're all disagreeing so much..
Because, of the reported fracas with JC, then the fracas with sG 2, maintenance man, then smash two v big windows with a small hammer. pics of hammer in most Dailymail articles.. It had a yellow stripe on it..
We cannot figure out how he smashed those massive windows.
If he had done it before he shot the 2 employees every alarm in the entire city should have gone off.. but nobody reported that.
An article at beginning of this thread described an eye witness account, he stated he was looking at the hotel and he saw what looked like an explosion
Charlotte observer was media source.. just afew hours ago..
He also described seeing sheets of glass falling..
He did not go into a timeline though..
I have read lots of accounts of firecrackers going off in close proximity to the stage just before the shooting started..

Moocow.. would tracers ever sound like firecrackers?

But breaking 2 mega windows is something that should take quite a bit of time.. he or somebody dID break them before presumably taking shots at the tanks.. sure he could have had his gun lined up with his measurements, wind velocity, the works, all ready to go.. and he could possibly have carried that task out quite quickly..
Also he must have had time to finish his drilling as well cos cops had to bust it wide open when they decided breach was safe.

Theres an awful lot of questions that could have been answered but were not and they are basic questions, commonsense questions.. partly for catharsis and also for curiosity.
Mostly for respect for the families of those who died or were wounded..
Imagine trying to picture how your child died in those circumstances... imagine..................
 
He did say that. You aren't reading all of my replies to you because I already replied to you before and pointed out that the first time he spoke about the brain, in the same sentence where he said it appeared fine, he also stated it was going to undergo further testing.

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IIRC yesterday was not the first time the brain was mentioned IIRC

Cause the other day when he talked about i thought oh brother another thing he is changing
 
It's reported that "incediary" rounds were fired at the fuel tanks, but I've no idea if that makes a different sound but the tanks were in a slightly different direction as well.

I suppose in his demented head the tanks could've represented a likely initial target to start things off in a big way, but purely my speculation. Fortunately the explosion didn't happen.

The tanks were more in line with the adjacent room.
 
A schiphrenic would have never been able to carry this out.
Agreed. To clarify I said the brother very animated said, I hope they find a brain tumour or something.. Then now there is all this focus on his brain/tumour.
And IMO the first thing that comes to mind when things are f*up isn't a tumour. Lots of mental illnesses (I just threw that one randomly out there), but tumor isn't my first thought for someone to do something this horrifying. Moo

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