NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

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  1. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    Las Vegas shooting death toll rises to 59, no apparent connection to international terror

    The shooter, perched on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel, sent more than 22,000 country music fans scrambling for their lives.
    One witness described the shooting as "non-stop gunfire."


    Las Vegas Shooting Live Updates: Multiple Weapons Found in Gunman’s Hotel Room

    The police found the gunman, whom they identified as Stephen Paddock, 64, dead in his room at the hotel. Investigators were still combing through Mr. Paddock’s background and searching his home on Monday.

    How the Shooting in Las Vegas Unfolded

    http://time.com/4965896/las-vegas-shooting-victims-names/

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    This is NOT a political debate. There will be zero tolerance for politicizing this American tragedy. Period. We will discuss the case, the shooter, the victims, the crime. Posts that are not compliant with this rule will be removed and members risk losing their posting privileges if they do not abide.
     
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  3. CARIIS

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    What is so bizarre is how they effectively got the whole story on a totally IMo relevant entity.

    The timeline.

    Transcripts from the dispatch clearly indicates that SWAT was not requested until 1025.

    It actually is that simple.

    At 10:24 p.m., officers :

    “It’s room 135 on the 32nd floor. I need the SWAT.

    At 10:28 p.m., as SWAT teams gather

    the next 50 minutes, officers secure the floor and ready several SWAT teams.

    11:20 p.m., they explode a door-

    How they turned this into the whole story is befuddling at best IMO

    Much more concerning IMO is the repeated reports by different LE folks throughout concretely reporting to dispatch locations of shooters , calling into dispatch firing from several locations- this one especially.

    Its not speculative on the trained officers report .

    It was stated in a concise report - to warn colleagues :

    “We have an active shooter — we have an active shooter inside the fairgrounds!”

    From another skilled LE letting colleagues know

    Upstairs in the Mandalay Bay, halfway up I see the shots coming from Mandalay Bay, halfway up.”

    another skilled observer in another position concisely reports to dispatch

    “Shots are coming from Gate 7.”

    This gentlemen repeats his warning about location again.

    A different officer calls in

    We’re seeing local flashes in the middle of Mandalay Bay on the north side, kind of on the west tower but towards the center of the casino, like one of the middle floors.”

    These statements do not have qualifiers

    I think

    sounds like

    might be

    Declarative statements by different trained people -----

    moo

    It is also confusing that a top ten most wanted fugitive , is captured, pleads no contest, makes a name change and proceeds to openly go about his life - free - for the next 7 years.

    I am assuming 10 top wanted folks serve prison time ........

    and finally, (kinda) why are there no bullet holes on anything but the ground?

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/mandalay-bay-vegas-shooting.html
     
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    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Thanks for this Tricia. There are definitely some very important questions that at some point need to be answered by authorities with regards to this "event".

    Will you still be uploading the interview with Doug Poppa?
     
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    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    This is a good example of where we need to use common sense and not make our brains explode by trying to tie things together that don't belong.

    According to a report (haven't read but was told by a member), Paddock's girlfriend's prints were on the ammo. OK. We know Marilou Danley was out of the country at the time of the shooting. We know she has never been considered a suspect. Why wouldn't her prints be on the ammo? She lived with Paddock. Maybe she opened the box and touch the bullets.

    The thing is we know she was not in the country when the shooting took place. Hence, she is not a possible second shooter if there even is one.

    Please be kind to each other. No snarky comments back and forth.

    Thanks,
    tricia
     
  8. kittythehare

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    Thanks Tricia for re-opening this conversation.
    I saw preliminary warrant reports, full reports to be released
    [FONT=&amp] https://twitter.com/CraigNews3LV/status/951579943179186176

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/01/12/las-vegas-shooting-fbi/1030771001/

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...gas-shooting-continues-to-puzzle-authorities/[FONT=&amp]

    And here's the warrants. Happy reading.
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    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4349486-Warrants-1.html[FONT=&amp]

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    I don't know.
    If he was he would have had to be moving at the speed of light to shoot at tanks for several rounds, board up door and start firing at crowd and manage to shoot whoever approached his room at the same time...


    My other big question is who actually shot Paddock of the alleged normal brain following sustaining a bullet or several via brain..

    The PR campaign that immediately enveloped the incident strikes me as suspicious.. particularly the tv interview with the 'agents'... sorry dont have link for that at hand. worth a re listen though.
     
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    there was more than one bullet to his brain?
     
  15. CoolJ

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    The warrants seem to implicate MD and "others yet unkown".......

    Oh boy, only halfway through and way more questions than before....
     
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    I don't believe he was for several reasons.
    He could have offloaded weapons far more securely and in far greater quantity elsewhere, almost anywhere elsewhere! See Reuters link https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...months-before-rampage-documents-idUSKBN1F205F

    I actually googled the email address and searched for it..
     
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    It was known that she had accompanied him on one or more weapon buying expeditions.
     
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    The FBI is saying he was buying and selling assault style rifles. Are you disputing that?
     
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    No, I'm disputing he was trading them on the night of the massacre..
    Though I'm not sure what the thousand rounds of ammo and the 100lbs of explosives were doing in his car.. just sitting there..?
    also the massive quantities discovered at 2 of his homes, as per warrant, which will not copy paste for me.
    The car contents suggest he may have had an accomplice or was planning an escape.. but he never allegedly tried to escape, did he?

    It is utterly bizarre.. I am wondering if the truth is something we have never even considered..
     
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