NV NV - Las Vegas, *GRAPHIC*, Male, died late-1970s or 1980s, In Barrel Found In Lake Mead, 1 May 2022

[Ozoner]

Body dumps and possible drownings too. I imagine there are plenty more.

Living on a Great Lake, we know there are hundreds of bodies in there. That is not even counting animal drownings etc. That's why we have treatment plants.

Yes. Lake Superior is so deep and cold that bodies supposedly either don't decay or decay very slowly. There's no telling how many bodies would be found if you could somehow drag every square foot of the bottom of that lake. Crater Lake in Oregon is even deeper, so there are probably quite a few bodies at the bottom of it, too. Lake Tahoe isn't far behind, and that lake is popular with tourists who probably don't realize that they're swimming with dead human bodies.

 

[formerlyme]

So two sisters were out on the lake enjoying the water and sunshine and found a skull.... Is it just me that would stay the heck out of that water until this is all over?

 

[PatLaurel]

Second body found at Lake Mead week after corpse was found in barrel

"Las Vegas police announced over the weekend that more skeletal remains were found at Callville Bay within the Lake Mead National Recreation Area"

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Lindsey and Lynette Melvin reportedly found the skeletal remains at Callville Bay within the Lake Mead National Recreation Area in Nevada around 2 p.m. Saturday, KTNV reported.

Photos of the grisly discovery show a skull, complete with teeth, nestled into the dirt and sand near the lake's shore. Other bones are seen sticking out of the sand at various angles. "

 

[formerlyme]

Second body found at Lake Mead week after corpse was found in barrel

"Las Vegas police announced over the weekend that more skeletal remains were found at Callville Bay within the Lake Mead National Recreation Area"

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Lindsey and Lynette Melvin reportedly found the skeletal remains at Callville Bay within the Lake Mead National Recreation Area in Nevada around 2 p.m. Saturday, KTNV reported.

Photos of the grisly discovery show a skull, complete with teeth, nestled into the dirt and sand near the lake's shore. Other bones are seen sticking out of the sand at various angles. "

very graphic photos, seems that authorities didn't really investigate much if they were just right there on the shore line.

 

[Hochman]

Should there be a different thread for the 2nd body?

 

[GatorFL]

very graphic photos, seems that authorities didn't really investigate much if they were just right there on the shore line.

That shoreline is huge.

 

[PatLaurel]

Should there be a different thread for the 2nd body?

They'll have their cases on NamUs sometime soon, so definitely yes! Go ahead!
MOO JMO

 

[Hochman]

They'll have their cases on NamUs sometime soon, so definitely yes! Go ahead!
MOO JMO

Thread for skull found on shoreline

NV - NV - Las Vegas, *GRAPHIC*, Skull found on Lake Mead shoreline, 2nd discovery in week, May'22

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/may/07/more-human-remains-found-at-lake-mead/ Not much information as of now.

www.websleuths.com

 

[sds71]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1523798332572766208

 

[sds71]

I’m relatively sure it was not Jimmy Hoffa,” he laughed, referring to the former labor boss who disappeared in 1975. But he added that a lot of his former clients seemed interested in “climate control” — mob speak for keeping the lake level up and bodies down in their watery graves.

Watery graves recall early Las Vegas’ organized crime days

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Stories about long-departed Las Vegas organized crime figures are surfacing after a second set of unidentified human remains were revealed as the water level falls on drought-stricken Lake Mead.

apnews.com

 

[ChatteringBirds]

It will be surprising if anyone is ever charged for these murders, I think. Let them all be returned to their families.

 

[summergirl1]

Vegas mob lore floats to the surface along with bodies at Lake Mead

The latest discovery in Lake Mead's receding waters comes less than a week after a body in a barrel was discovered.

www.latimes.com

 

[sds71]

Mob experts link 'Casino' hitman to Lake Mead mobster found in barrel

BURBANK & SCHUMACHER: Our research found three possible victims who may be the body in the barrel and one killer all linked to the most powerful mob operation of that time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Mob experts link 'Casino' hitman to Lake Mead mobster found in barrel

BURBANK & SCHUMACHER: Our research found three possible victims who may be the body in the barrel and one killer all linked to the most powerful mob operation of that time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Here's WS links for two of the three:

AZ - AZ - George 'Jay' Vandermark, 52, Phoenix, 1 Aug 1976

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3630dmaz.html George Jay Vandermark Missing since August 1, 1976 from Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona Classification: Endangered Missing -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vital Statistics Date...

www.websleuths.com

NV - NV - John Pappas, 54, Las Vegas, 18 Aug 1976

John George Pappas Case Classification: Missing Missing Since: August 18, 1976 Location Last Seen: Las Vegas, Clark County, Nevada Description: Date of Birth: circa 1922 Age: 54 years old Race: White/Caucasian Gender: Male Height: 5' 10" (70 inches) Weight: 185 lbs Hair Color: Gray Eye...

www.websleuths.com

Since Pappas disappeared along with his car, I wouldn't be surprised if they find him in it one day, whether or not it's at Lake Mead.

 

[summergirl1]

The article says his car was spotted four days after he vanished in a casino parking lot. I read his thread on here where it says his car was never seen again. Was that the last time his car was seen, then? If that's true about his car being spotted then he did not drive himself into Lake Mead or other water by accident or something. I would presume he was deceased by then.. Of course if he had been killed and they still had his body they could have put it in the vehicle and put it in Lake Mead or another body of water. Just something I noticed. It sounds like he was murdered (and robbed?) by whoever wanted to "buy" his boat( as has happened in online cases involving Craigslist etc decades later, although he didn't have his boat with him) or as the article says, it may have been a mob ruse to murder him. Perhaps also he did not tell his wife the truth about where he was going, and he was going to meet someone about something mob related instead?

 

[summergirl1]

A lake recedes, a body emerges, and the ghost of Johnny Pappas rises in my memory – The Nevada Independent. I wonder if there any witnesses at the restaurant who saw him, if they met inside the restaurant.

 

[Curious_in_NC]

A lake recedes, a body emerges, and the ghost of Johnny Pappas rises in my memory – The Nevada Independent. I wonder if there any witnesses at the restaurant who saw him, if they met inside the restaurant.

Thanks. The linked article says "His car was found three days later in the Circus Circus parking lot with the keys in the ignition." So maybe the NamUs info about the car being missing too is wrong. I'm guessing since they had the keys, someone must have checked out the trunk. MOO

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Francis Anthony Rossana
DLC: April 20, 1989
Missing from: Las Vegas, NV
Missing age: 67
Circumstances: Francis “Frank” Rossana was last seen on April 20, 1989 in Las Vegas, Nevada. His vehicle was later found at the McCarran Airport with no signs of a struggle. Frank was the owner of a bar in Las Vegas at the time of his disappearance and had no plans to travel from the area.


Additional info: Frank owned the Serene Room, which was a bar in Las Vegas. He had lost about $500,000 dollars after the Las Vegas-based Power Securities Corp. folded. The business shut down about a week after the NY Attorney General accused it of defrauding investors out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Richard Marchese, who ran the company, had been accused of making threats against his detractors and was later put on trial for multiple counts of mail fraud and money laundering.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

FBI assisting with investigation into body found in barrel at Lake Mead - KLAS
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The FBI is assisting with the investigation into the body found in a barrel at Lake Mead, a department spokeswoman confirmed Wednesday.

[…]

The spokeswoman would not comment further on the reason for the agency’s assistance. It is not uncommon for the FBI to assist local police in high-profile investigations that may require additional resources or that could involve a suspect who crossed state lines.

[…]

Investigators with Metro police and the Clark County coroner’s office had said they would try to pull DNA from the remains, though it was not clear Wednesday if that task had been completed.

As of last month, Metro police had received dozens of tips about the possible identity of the person.