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NV NV - Steven Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #22

Discussion in '2000's Missing' started by bessie, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. cocomod

    cocomod Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, we do not know what happened to Steven. We have no evidence either way; but he has not been found. We all have theories and opinions though. Once you are up to speed, we would love to hear your opinion.
     
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  2. Blissfulsally555

    Blissfulsally555 Active Member

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    I’m sure I remember reading that they did do a search but I can’t remember how long after Steven went missing that was, in the area of the phone ping . Yeh I remember a few people posting about the storage facilities too and also the dodgy apartments in Whitney Ranch. That phone could be anywhere.
    Not sure , sounds like they are busy with all those homicides. I feel like they need a detective who solely concentrates on missing cases . I feel like they definitely need fresh eyes, they should re interview people like Stevens boss, LL, GW and the other ward members who were the elders in the church Steven was attending. I just feel like Steven must have confided with one of his ward members or someone about his situation . I used to go to church and if I was going through anything I would always talk with one of the pastors in my church, it was quite helpful. I just can’t believe that Steven didn’t confide to someone about his money/job problems. We know one of the elders was going to help him with job in the new year buts that seems to be it. I think they all need to be talked to again.
    In Brianna Maitlands case the private investigators re interviewed people and got a new lead recently and she’s been missing about 12 years or so I think , but its amazing after a lot of time has passed that people may want to speak up . So it’s worth it. I know Stevens case had a private investigator but I haven’t heard anything new in a long time.
     
  3. Blissfulsally555

    Blissfulsally555 Active Member

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    I think it’s so hard because even though we have the receipts to confirm some stops that Steven made and the visit to the ex’s parents house in ruby Valley, Steven could have made various other stops on the way to Ruby Valley. One thought I had because of the Salt Lake stop was maybe his intention could have been to visit with his parents, they weren’t too far , maybe he was going to talk to his parents about his situation but changed his mind and decided to seek out the ex girlfriend to get advice or something. Maybe he wanted to talk to someone about his problems and thought she might be helpful with advice because he got nervous or just didn’t know if he could get the courage to talk to his parents and accept their help so he decided to go see her instead but she wasn’t home.
     
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  4. Laughing

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    Welcome to Websleuths!

    matt3892, if we knew -- we wouldn't be here!

    What is your input from the available information?
     
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  5. matt3892

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    I personally think it was the prescription drug theory since that LL is very shady and has a criminal past. Also, it seems like Steven and his LL talked frequently which is odd to me. Just my thoughts on this case!
     
  6. Julia966

    Julia966 Well-Known Member

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    It seems like it must have been something shady. If it wasn't, it seems like someone in the Sun Anthem neighborhood would have come forward to say that Steven was expected for some legitimate reason, or that they knew him, or something.

    The other explanation was that he wasn't expected and didn't know anyone there. But if that is the case, why would he be there?

    It's very strange. Even if he was delivering pills or drugs or something, why would he have disappeared? It seems like a drug transaction would be straightforward, and he would have been on his way. But maybe I'm being naïve. Maybe the recipient didn't want to pay, or something else went wrong.
     
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    If it wasn't a delivery, he could have had cash for a pickup which gives more incentive for something bad to have happened. Just speculation because we haven't seen any evidence this was going on.
     
  8. matt3892

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    Do you guys think Steven is still alive? He’s been gone for almost a decade so it’s hard to say.
     
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  9. Julia966

    Julia966 Well-Known Member

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    I don't, but no matter how many times I read over the known facts, I can't come up with a theory as to what happened.
     
  10. matt3892

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    Same, it’s like anything could’ve happened. I wish the police would get a lead someday. It’s like he disappeared into thin air at this point.
     
  11. Julia966

    Julia966 Well-Known Member

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    I will say that I don't think it was suicide or him running off to start a new life. I do think he met with foul play, but how, why, what, I have no idea.
     
  12. matt3892

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    I agree. Foul play makes the most sense to me. Someone out there knows what really happened to him and I hope one day they come forward.
     
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  13. matt3892

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    I wonder what Steven was doing earlier that morning before he disappeared. Does anyone have a theory?
     
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  14. cocomod

    cocomod Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anyone has come up with anything from 10:00 on Saturday night to when his car was found on the video surveillance. I could be wrong..

    Here is a synopsis someone put together of the timeline of his last few weeks.

    The Disappearance of Steven Koecher

    or this one:

    Steven Koecher Detailed Timeline
     
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    Thank you! This is very helpful. :)
     
  16. Julia966

    Julia966 Well-Known Member

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    I think that's right. The first link includes phone pings. He was in Las Vegas on the morning of the 13th for at least few hours before parking his car at Sun Anthem and disappearing, as he told the two church members who called him. But we don't know what he was doing during those hours, or any time after arriving home the previous night at around 10:00.
     
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  17. ScorpioRising

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    Looking at the way the car drives by and the way that he walks with purpose makes me feel that he was there at least once before. Possibly on the trip the day before when he stopped in Overton Nevada and Mesquite Nevada. Overton is way out from the I15, enough so that it wasn't just a gas stop. I wonder whether the phone pings for the day before give any hints whether he could have been in Vegas as well? Also the surveillance camera should have been checked for the days leading up to it at least. It could be that this was the end of some sort of transaction and he was going there to deliver cash or get paid. If this was my first time ever in that neighborhood parking I feel like it would have been all somewhat slower and less determined (the walking..the parking)

    The LL stayed at least overnight at his rental in St. George according to LL wife and this timeline here the day when he went missing.
    timeline2009 - laytonian

    I wish the family would join us here again. The case is cold as ice right now, it's been a long long time....it would help if they keep the conversation going and maybe get some more media attention to hopefully get someone to speak up. They could assist us with more info about his phone records maybe. @Naegle or his brother Dellin..if you are reading this..please consider speaking up again.
     
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  18. Blissfulsally555

    Blissfulsally555 Active Member

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    Exactly, it was LL’s wife who posted here saying that Steven and LL had worked out a deal on the rent so why LL kept calling and calling Steven , I just don’t know , it seems super shady but on the other hand maybe he was worried because the other renter already left without paying the rent so maybe he wasn’t so sure Steven would come through with the rent money. But yes they seem to have a lot of contact.
     
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  19. Blissfulsally555

    Blissfulsally555 Active Member

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    Exactly but with drug transaction I wondered if it was a set up , like to get Steven out of the house and away from st George and for something to happen to Steven . We know Steven owed money , money is a motive, people who owe money unfortunately can be done away with.
     
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  20. Blissfulsally555

    Blissfulsally555 Active Member

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    I feel like I go between yes and no but mostly no. I feel like it was foul play, not suicide or running away. If he was alive I think he may have been injured on purpose or accidently and maybe have a head injury . Who knows where he would be homeless on the streets confused.

    And foul play , for obvious reasons, he’s been gone for a nearly 10 years , from every thing we’ve heard Steven loved his family and friends and I really don’t think that he would knowingly stay gone for this long. Also even though there’s been a lot of sightings none of them have been confirmed.

    Also just because we know the LL involved in the prescription pill business doesn’t mean Steven was definitely involved although it’s a theory , Steven could have fallen prey to a Craigslist ad for a job or through someone he just met or even maybe a friend recommended him for a job and something happened. He could have been in Henderson for any number of reasons that could have involved someone he did or didn’t know for a job or a completely different reason.
    Same for the long drive he took, could have been delivering pills or he could of wanted to see his ex for advice or to go see his parents or for completely different reasons.

    Again we really just don’t know but I feel foul play is involved here.
     
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