NY - $250m fraud against Former President Donald Trump, Trump Org., Eric, Donald Jr., Sept 2022, Trial 2 Oct 2023

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In the late 70s, early 80s, my ex-husband worked for a financial institution that was housed at 40 Wall St.

This was decades before Trump bought the building, but even if he’d owned it, I believe Trump would’ve just been the landlord, not the employer.

There are a multitude of companies at this address, primarily banks as this is the Financial District, and I’m quite sure that the mid-level employees have nothing to do with the landlord. Nor do the lower-level employees, as you have pointed out.

IMO they are not evil people who chose to work for Trump. The majority of employees are not in any way part of the Trump Organization but rather employees of the corporations that hired them.

Also IMO it would not follow that everyone in a Trump-owned property would vote for him, either.

Trump falsifying his tax records and lying about his properties are just more ways in which we see how little he cares about anyone but himself. Ordinary people will lose their jobs, but that is immaterial to him.

IMO
People around Trump pay for his sins- and he could care less-
To my way of thinking he is truly evil---
 

Trump Freaks out After Judge Finds Him Liable for Fraud: ‘I AM WORTH MUCH MORE THAN THE NUMBERS SHOWN’​

What encapsulates Trump’s persona more than this?

The judge’s ruling has pierced the heart of Trump’s empire, which was born here in NYC, yet his principal concern is that the public may not perceive him as a billionaire.

He’s desperate that no one knows he’s the epitome of “the emperor has no clothes.”

IMO

@Inthedetails Thank you for the gift link to the article, but I was not able to open it.
 
I'm so sick of him and his entire family. Wahhh, the judge hates me!! I swear, the whole clan of 'em. It's just so UNFATHOMABLE that a judge sided with the law. They can never be wrong, it has to be a personal hatred for them that would make any court not side with them. Everything they do is so dramatic, it just makes me want to set myself on fire.

They’re all the very definition of of their often used insult “SNOWFLAKE.” Oh the irony!


"Snowflake" is a derogatory slang term for a person, implying that they have an inflated sense of uniqueness, an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.
<snip>

Snowflake as a politicized insult is typically used by those on the political right to insult those on the political left.[9] In an article from the Los Angeles Times, Jessica Roy says the alt-right in the United States pejoratively describes most liberals and those protesting against Donald Trump as "snowflakes".[19]
 
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What encapsulates Trump’s persona more than this?

The judge’s ruling has pierced the heart of Trump’s empire, which was born here in NYC, yet his principal concern is that the public may not perceive him as a billionaire.

He’s desperate that no one knows he’s the epitome of “the emperor has no clothes.”

IMO

@Inthedetails Thank you for the gift link to the article, but I was not able to open it.
Ack - sorry about that. I think I copied the URL instead of using the gift link. Try this one:
@Arkay
 
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What encapsulates Trump’s persona more than this?

The judge’s ruling has pierced the heart of Trump’s empire, which was born here in NYC, yet his principal concern is that the public may not perceive him as a billionaire.

He’s desperate that no one knows he’s the epitome of “the emperor has no clothes.”

IMO

@Inthedetails Thank you for the gift link to the article, but I was not able to open it.
I also think he's fixated on numbers. Inauguration size, wealth, weight, square footage, 11,780 votes in Georgia he wanted the governor to "find." (Plus that weird hurricane map he drew with a Sharpie for no reason.)

jmo
 
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Thank you!
This one worked.

I‘m casting around in my mind for new names for Trump Tower.

I was thinking Chump Tower, but that really casts aspersions at the tenants and not Trump, so that’s a no-go.

My son-in-law used to work security at Trump Tower, but the only Trump he’d met was Ivanka.
 
I also think he's fixated on numbers. Inauguration size, wealth, weight, square footage, 11,780 votes in Georgia he wanted the governor to "find." (Plus that weird hurricane map he drew with a Sharpie for no reason.)

jmo

He is the greatest president in our history who ran two of the greatest and biggest elections in all of recorded time. You know everything he does is the greatest, the biggest, and the best ever. Guy must sleep in a hyperbolic echo chamber.
 
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This one worked.

I‘m casting around in my mind for new names for Trump Tower.

I was thinking Chump Tower, but that really casts aspersions at the tenants and not Trump, so that’s a no-go.

My son-in-law used to work security at Trump Tower, but the only Trump he’d met was Ivanka.
Well, one of the towers is on 5th Ave, not far from Central Park, so Central Park 5?

Probably not.

jmo
 
Well, one of the towers is on 5th Ave, not far from Central Park, so Central Park 5?

Probably not.

jmo

Can’t do that, I’m afraid, because the Central Park 5 is what they called the men who had allegedly raped a woman there, many years ago.

I do agree that some other generic address would be a good way to rename it, though, if it comes to renaming it at all.

imo
 
Can’t do that, I’m afraid, because the Central Park 5 is what they called the men who had allegedly raped a woman there, many years ago.

I do agree that some other generic address would be a good way to rename it, though, if it comes to renaming it at all.

imo
I know....I was referencing Trump's rampage against the five, who were later found innocent.

jmo
 
What encapsulates Trump’s persona more than this?

The judge’s ruling has pierced the heart of Trump’s empire, which was born here in NYC, yet his principal concern is that the public may not perceive him as a billionaire.

He’s desperate that no one knows he’s the epitome of “the emperor has no clothes.”

IMO

@Inthedetails Thank you for the gift link to the article, but I was not able to open it.
His absurd words actually made me laugh- he is truly not redeemable- he has no conscience, no shame--- true that the emperor has no clothes but he thinks he is dressed in a Tuxedo!!!!
 
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This one worked.

I‘m casting around in my mind for new names for Trump Tower.

I was thinking Chump Tower, but that really casts aspersions at the tenants and not Trump, so that’s a no-go.

My son-in-law used to work security at Trump Tower, but the only Trump he’d met was Ivanka.
If you're just looking to rhyme, Schlump might work ;)

On a serious note, I loved what our former Vancouver mayor Gregor Robertson had to say back in 2015 when asking to have Trump's name removed from the then Trump Tower (now the Paradox Hotel)

from: Paradox Hotel Vancouver - Wikipedia

"Trump’s name and brand have no more place on Vancouver’s skyline than his ignorant ideas have in the modern world."
 
If you're just looking to rhyme, Schlump might work ;)

On a serious note, I loved what our former Vancouver mayor Gregor Robertson had to say back in 2015 when asking to have Trump's name removed from the then Trump Tower (now the Paradox Hotel)

from: Paradox Hotel Vancouver - Wikipedia

"Trump’s name and brand have no more place on Vancouver’s skyline than his ignorant ideas have in the modern world."
I like Schlump LOL
 

“Don't take this the wrong way, but what in the court's mind does this trial look like?" asked Christopher Kise, the lead lawyer for Trump.

On Wednesday morning, Justice Engoron pointedly responded to Kise's query by asking James' counsel whether she plans to drop the remaining counts. She does not, her lawyer confirmed.

As for the trial itself, the attorney general's office revealed on Wednesday that their witness list includes 130 names in alphabetical order, provided to the defense.

The trial was initially anticipated to last until just before Christmas, but the judge's ruling handing victory to the AG on the top count is expected to streamline those proceedings.
 

Trump also signed his name to certify the accuracy of the financial statements. In addition, he personally touted the puffed-up financial statements to lenders. “Hopefully you will be impressed!” he wrote to the CEO of Deutsche Bank Securities in 2011.

On top of to the paper trail, Trump’s own words confirm his involvement. Trump admitted in a 2007 deposition that he looked over the statements with his former chief financial officer. He also said that he kept a copy on his desk.

Then there are the tapes. Forbes has previously released recordings of Trump inventing numbers as part of a long-running effort to climb higher on the annual Forbes 400 list of America’s richest people. In 2015, he seemed to hint that his lies to the media were part of a broader campaign to deceive his lenders: “It was good for financing,” he explained, when asked why Forbes’ valuations were so important to him.
 
From 2022:


For decades, Trump and his lieutenants lied to Forbes about his finances, as we have duly noted over the years in the annual Forbes 400 issue listing the richest Americans. In the 1982 inaugural edition, the real estate scion appeared alongside his father with a combined estimated net worth of $200 million—and even then insisted on a higher valuation: “Donald claims $500 million,” we noted. By 2000, the boasts were bolder: “In The Donald’s world, worth more than $5 billion—back on Earth, worth considerably less.” When he was running for office, we explained how his net-worth obsession “opens windows into Trump the entrepreneur, the candidate and the person.” Two Forbes journalists received subpoenas last year from the Manhattan district attorney and had to testify before a grand jury to confirm information in two articles detailing Trump’s shenanigans.

Forbes dug into our archives to see just how far the Trump Organization was willing to go. In 2013, a Forbes reporter noted that he had seen evidence that the Trump Organization was generating massive profits at 40 Wall Street. “Allen”—presumably chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg—“showed me total rent of $48.39M and expenses of $20.68M, with [a net operating income] of $27.7128M,” the reporter wrote in his notes. Other documents that Forbes now has, but did not possess at the time, suggest operating income was closer to $10 million. “Hi,” someone named Jeff—likely Trump Organization controller Jeffrey McConney—wrote the next year. “Our stabilized [net operating income] for 40 Wall Street is approximately $24mil.” The actual net operating income that year was $11 million, according to a bond prospectus.

Even though he had just reworked his mortgage at 40 Wall Street, Trump couldn’t resist another chance to boast about it. “It’s a 78-story building,” Trump said, even though his firm had previously marketed it as a 72-story building—and it’s actually just 63 stories, according to documents filed with the city. “It’s going to throw off, would you say, $50 million maybe this year?” he asked, turning to Allen Weisselberg. “Fifty million at least,” Trump concluded, faster than his CFO could get out the words, “Yeah, by the end of the year.”
 
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