NY NY - Alice Parsons: Heiress, Long Island, 1937

Discussion in 'Pre-1960's Missing' started by Marilynilpa, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. Ausgirl

    Ausgirl ...

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    Awesome info on Roy's dad, thanks for that! I hope there's a book soon, too, I would sure buy it!
     


  2. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Active Member

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    The FBI participated in the investigation of Alice Parson's disappearance. I wonder if their files for Alice, Anna and William would be available by now? Does anyone know how to get these?
     
  3. zwiebel

    zwiebel New Member

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    I mentioned Alice's case in an article I wrote today. I really do hope the book about her case will be published one day soon. There is very little out there, apart from original news articles and the thread here. It's just crying out for a well-researched book, in my opinion.

    The other case I mention in my article happened 10 years earlier than Alice's disappearance, but still gets attention (and he was found). I just don't understand it.

    http://bobharrodmissing.com/unique-cases-2.html
     
  4. Ausgirl

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    FOIA. Actually, getting those docs might be really a good idea. Sometimes you can even glean information from what's redacted and what is not, lol.
     
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    It really is surprising that there is not more info, I agree. Thanks for the article! Every bit helps keep a case alive.
     
  6. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Active Member

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    Bumping for Alice.
     
  7. nanny2five

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    what if william was roy's father from his trip to england in '25? what if alice knew it and that is why she allowed the name change and adoption. or maybe she was manipulated into the name change and adoption and only later found letters or some such informing her of the truth. what an interesting story!! i have read through this entire thread in one day and now i have to go to work with long ago on my mind.
     
  8. chibiaeris

    chibiaeris New Member

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    I'm assuming that if Roy's father was Hans Raj Soni, he would look mixed race or biracial. As far as I know, William was Caucasian and so I would assume it would be easy to rule out William as Roy's father just by looking at him.
     
  9. nanny2five

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    is there a for sure pic of roy on this thread? i have seen a lot of pics but none that are him. it is interesting that in the 1940 census he is listed as "american citizen born abroad". that would seem to imply that at least one of his bio parents was american. just sayin' :)
     
  10. chibiaeris

    chibiaeris New Member

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    Well, he was adopted by the Parsons if I remember correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong), so I assume then he'd be a naturalised American citizen.



    I think Anna wouldn't be stupid enough to claim her son was the son of an Indian if he didn't look biracial, but it's a good point - there must be photos of Roy out there.



    FWIW, he also seemed proud of his Indian ancestry ( I believe his son had an Indian name) so he thought he was half Indian at least. :)
     
  11. Fukiyama

    Fukiyama Well-Known Member

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    Did the book someone in this thread said she was writing ever get published?

    Thanks.
     
  12. Ragamuffin

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    Just came across this utterly fascinating, and incredibly well researched!, case.

    Anglo-Indian can mean many things. The actor Ben Kingsley (birth name Krishna Bahnji) is Anglo-Indian. I'm pretty sure if one did not know that, one would automatically assume he is an upper-middle-class (white) Englishman even though he is best known for portraying Gandhi.

    Hans Raj Soni (without seeing a photo of him)- his name, Hans, indicates that he was *at least* bi-racial, and depending on his caste and which part of India he was from, his son with Anna very well could have *passed* as white.

    *I hate having to type passed.

    For further info, see UK comic Alistair McGowan on the BBC "Who Do You Think You Are?". He was utterly surprised to find out his father was Anglo-Indian.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/past-stories/alistair-mcgowan.shtml
     
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    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    murphysmom New Member

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    This case fascinates me! What ever happened to some one writing a book???
     
  16. Museumgirl

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    I'd like to know about the book too!
     
  17. chibiaeris

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    I believe it was Marilynilpa who was going to write the book. I often think of this case and when I do I wonder how she is doing with the write-up. Looks like there's been no movement yet. :(

    Ragamuffin, you make a very good point. I myself am biracial (half-English and Chinese), and most people think I am Caucasian. So I'm sure you're right, and assumptions shouldn't be made about Roy's appearance.

    As for the question of Hans Raj Soni - as I posted before, I did some research into his background, and I am almost certain he is full-blood Indian. Actually, the 'Hans' bit of his name is deceptive - from what I can tell 'Hansraj' is an Indian name (just Google it), and for some reason (probably because he was studying in a European country), he decided to separate out his name to 'Hans Raj', so his European classmates would find it easier to just call him the familiar-sounding 'Hans'. Of course, this is all assumption on my part, but IMHO it makes sense.

    I posted this earlier, but I'll post it again so people don't have to go searching - here are the details of Hans Raj Soni's background, taken from the Lincoln's Inn admissions register in London (transcribed here: http://hosted.law.wisc.edu/wordpress/sharafi/files/2010/07/Lincolns-Inn-6.0.pdf)

    He was born in Lahore, son of Rai Sahib Ramditta Soni. I'd say it would be very unusual if he had a white mother, although I suppose it's not out of the realms of possibility.

    All this does make me wonder though, how on earth he and Anna hooked up. I suppose things were rather footloose and fancy free in 1920's London! :angel:
     
  18. fred&edna

    fred&edna Simply convoluted

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    I was reading back through this thread and happened to notice an early post by marilynilpa regarding FBI files:

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eiress-Long-Island-1937&p=5324689#post5324689


    I do hope a book is forthcoming.
     
  19. Ellmau

    Ellmau Well-Known Member

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    Interracial sexual/romantic relationships between, usually men, from the Empire who were studying in the UK and native British white women were far from uncommon in those days.
     
  20. Pink Panther

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    No one seems to be writing a book.

    Bumping for Alice.
     

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