NY NY - Bronx, Mosholu Pkwy, WhtFem 35-45, UP4902, nude in metal cabinet on sidewalk, 2 sheets, Mar'98

Is it just me, or does this woman look very similar?
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20265/2

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Valerie Smith
March 4, 1981
20 years old
5' 100lbs.
Missing from Long Island City, Queens, NY
Missing was depressed and stated to her father that she I might as well jump off a bridge.
 

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Oh wow..interesting I kind of see it.. and she is really short. There are also photos of her with a lot more weight on her, she seemed to fluctuate .. I know on the post mortem you can sort of see the teeth on the Jane doe.. I have been trying to find Valerie but have not been able to make a match.. She disappeared not far from where I live.
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Is it just me, or does this woman look very similar?
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/20265/2

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Valerie Smith
March 4, 1981
20 years old
5' 100lbs.
Missing from Long Island City, Queens, NY
Missing was depressed and stated to her father that she I might as well jump off a bridge.
 
oh no.. I think Valerie's ears stick out more.. but then this woman had duct tape on her head so who knows
 
oh no.. I think Valerie's ears stick out more.. but then this woman had duct tape on her head so who knows

Yeah, Valerie's ears don't match, and neither does her jawline. Also, there is the height discrepancy between Valerie and Jane Doe. Unless Valerie had some sort of degenerative disc disorder, scoliosis, or compression fractures due to trauma, then the loss of 4 to 5" in height seems unreasonable.:facepalm:
 
Could she have been a nun or a patient here? What sort of metal cabinet could it be that can fit a body that size?
 
Could she have been a nun or a patient here? What sort of metal cabinet could it be that can fit a body that size?

Likely the flesh was very soft? There is a cabinet in my office that would hold a person if the shelves were removed.

https://www.staples.com/Sandusky-Standard-Storage-Cabinet-Putty/product_449959

especially the 24" deep version.

Might help us if LE would show a picture of the cabinet.

And now off to look into St. Patrick's Home, although this seems to have more of a SE7EN vibe to me....

:seeya:
 
There is no photo for this girl she went missing in 1996 is enough time to put on weight, just thought I would post her
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3216dffl.html

The Doe Network

If you have found a photo of this person please contact appropriate member of the Area Team

Bilma Flor Morales
Case Classification: Missing/Runaway
Missing Since: April 13, 1996
Location Last Seen: Indiantown, Martin County, Florida


Physical Description
** Listed information is from the time of disappearance.

Date of Birth: July 1, 1980
Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 yrs.
Race: Hispanic/Latino
Gender: Female
Height at Time of Disappearance: 4'7"
Weight at Time of Disappearance: 120 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Alias(s) / Nickname(s): None

Distinguishing Marks/Features: None

Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Not Available
DNA: Not Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: N/A

Jewelry: N/A

Additional Personal Items: N/A


Circumstances of Disappearance
Child's father reported that she had voluntarily run away with a male by the name of Olivio Velasquez Diaz, and was possibly headed to Virginia. Child's whereabouts and well-being could never be verified, so she is still listed as missing.
 
I wish there was more information or a photo of the metal cabinet

Could she have been a nun or a patient here? What sort of metal cabinet could it be that can fit a body that size?
 
I wish there was more information or a photo of the metal cabinet

I wanna know who moved out of that building the week the cabinet appeared on the sidewalk, also who "rearranged the furniture" that week.

Margaret Fleming is/was taller.
 
I see a striking resemblance to Deborah Overbaugh. The nose is narrow, eyebrows sit higher and cheekbones match, too. Height is the only difference, but not by too much. Thoughts?
 
Yes I am totally interested also.. but I just googled the address and if you go on street view I noticed that building is on the corner and the park is all across the street and on the corner.. so the person(s) could of just dropped the cabinet off if it was a dark night.. they could of come from some place else and turned on Gun Hill... just my thoughts.. https://www.google.com/#q=75+West+Mosholu+Parkway+North,+Bronx,+NY&spf=1497324792445

I wanna know who moved out of that building the week the cabinet appeared on the sidewalk, also who "rearranged the furniture" that week.

Margaret Fleming is/was taller.
 
c1f6ba8561469ebdf3c206b1562485af[1].jpgimg_17502[1].jpeg your right she does look like the doe..and 1992 to 1998 is enough time to put on weight.. again its the 4'7 height that is so hard to find anyone to fit that height!
I see a striking resemblance to Deborah Overbaugh. The nose is narrow, eyebrows sit higher and cheekbones match, too. Height is the only difference, but not by too much. Thoughts?
 
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your right she does look like the doe..and 1992 to 1998 is enough time to put on weight.. again its the 4'7 height that is so hard to find anyone to fit that height!

Her height is really throwing me off too. Was this a woman held captive for so long that she had stunted physical development? Can this possibly be a woman who went missing as a child like Mary Ann Verdecchia?http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/verdecchia_mary.html
 
Madamx, you should submit her!!!
I agree, Madamx you should!. I learned one thing when people are matched : age, weight and height is not
Always on target. Don't ever let that be a determining factor. A woman went missing in NYS and the UID remains were found in Maryland. Her actual age was 47 she was listed as 28 to 33, 8 years later the detectives on the case saw an artists sketch, ,made the call and got a match.
 
Here is a little tid bit I found when Googling Deborah's name:
[FONT=&quot] It’s still open — the disappearance of a woman named Deborah Overbaugh. She’d had problems, some of them violent, with her family, and she had a stepson who had, as Olson puts it, a “checkered past.”[/FONT]

Source: http://www.recordonline.com/article/20090201/NEWS/902010319
 
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oh I just noticed... I am getting credit for this Deborah woman (i feel bad) its rsnspi that found her!!! I just posted her photo for comparison to the Jane Doe.. rsnspi good call, yay for you!! Submit her!!!
I see a striking resemblance to Deborah Overbaugh. The nose is narrow, eyebrows sit higher and cheekbones match, too. Height is the only difference, but not by too much. Thoughts?
 
oh I just noticed... I am getting credit for this Deborah woman (i feel bad) its rsnspi that found her!!! I just posted her photo for comparison to the Jane Doe.. rsnspi good call, yay for you!! Submit her!!!

I've never submitted before - would love some guidance.


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rsnpi, as I understand it you start at her Missing page, and email the contact (LE or coroner) with the information about the agency handling the investigation of the unidentified person -- and vice versa, emailing or telephoning the contact for our deceased lady with the contact information for the agency looking for the missing person.

but as it's past 5 o'clock right here, I may be befuddled beyond practical use.

Best, Laughing

:seeya:
 

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