NY NY - Colin Gillis, 18, Tupper Lake, 11 March 2012

Discussion in '2010's Missing' started by nursebeeme, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. ninij9

    ninij9 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the clarification Kadence. It is a small detail that was itching me. I check in every day. This is too sad. Also my condolences to you in the loss of your father.
     


  2. PastTense

    PastTense Well-Known Member

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    After 2 Years of Hoping, Upstate New York Family Has Few Leads on Man Who Vanished
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/01/nyregion/two-years-later-few-answers-in-a-mans-vanishing.html
     
  3. SunsetGirl

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    Quote from New York Times article Nov. 30, 2014

    I had wondered about the time frame between the last admitted sighting by RR (newspaper editor) and when the state police actually drove along that road. Previous news reports varied but all implied a much quicker response than stated here. So this is interesting.
     
  5. SunsetGirl

    SunsetGirl Member

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    That's very unsettling ... it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened. I think Tarabull alluded to the same thing a page or two back from Andalso's post.

    Have the Gillises hired their own private investigator?
     
  6. Kadence

    Kadence Verified insider - Colin Gillis case

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    Hi SunsetGirl -

    They, to my knowledge, have not hired a private investigator, as they are relying on, and have confidence in, the local and state police. I know they have been working with some outside search and rescue agencies.

    I came here to post the NY Times article, but it's already been posted, thank you PastTense! You stay up way later than me lol! Many things are clarified in the article, the police response time to Colin's last known location was never shared with me but I never asked (dummy here - I always assumed it was immediate! Wouldn't one think it would be?! Or is that just me?). Please keep the Gillis family in your prayers, I feel doors are opening which I have been closed for too long - he/she/they can't live with this forever, it's not possible to live with the guilt - we will bring Colin home!
     
  7. tarabull

    tarabull Life is a puzzle.

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    Ultra interesting...

    Snipped...
    Going back to the beginning - literally - snipped from the first post of this thread...

    :thinking:
     
  8. tarabull

    tarabull Life is a puzzle.

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    Where u at Colin?

    :candle:
     
  9. Hap

    Hap Wisher & Dreamer

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    Time to find Colin before another winter is upon us....
     
  10. Kadence

    Kadence Verified insider - Colin Gillis case

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    Hi Tarabull-

    I was told Colin did NOT have his jacket or backpack, I have read the NYT article probably 10 times and I never noticed it says he did, what? My reading comprehension needs some obvious work! Nice work Tarabull! I'm going to mention that to Patty as the article needs to be corrected, I mean they couldn't even get Colin's Uncle's name correct and he was right there! They added a correction regarding that as well as the location of Colin's last reported telephone outreach. While I'm VERY appreciative of Mr. Rosen's interview, at this stage, I feel it is critical/imperative to communicate 100% correct information. Not doing so, only slows, if not stalls, Colin's case. I don't know about any of you but it seems that I'm in the minority when it comes to reading the corrections section of the newspaper, most go with what they read in the original article and take it as fact :(
     
  11. andalso

    andalso Well-Known Member

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    BBM: Wow, thanks guys. Haven't been here in a bit, glad to see you all have been busy and that you agree my ideas/theories may not be totally off base!

    Kadence...I am so terribly sorry for your loss.

    I must admit, I do kinda think I am onto something...and it is a little scary that if I am on the right track that LE hasn't been able to piece more together.

    I think a Private Investigator is the way to go for the family.

    Does the family have a copy of the police report from that evening? I have said before, I would sure like to see it.

    Where is Colin?
     
  12. andalso

    andalso Well-Known Member

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    Guess this answers my question about the police report, but I could swear I have seen police reports made available in other cases that were still being investigated. Am I wrong? Heather Elvis case comes to mind, I think we definately saw the police report for the evening she went missing whilst the investigation was going on. Didn't we?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/01/nyregion/two-years-later-few-answers-in-a-mans-vanishing.html?_r=1
     
  13. andalso

    andalso Well-Known Member

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    Bumping for Colin

    Let's find him!
     
  14. SunsetGirl

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    There is a photo in the most recent NY Times article showing a topographical map with markings of areas searched ... I wish we could get a better photo to post here ... if you enlarge that photo and really examine it - it's very impressive to see all the areas covered!

    In the absence of any evidence except the 2 items found on the roadside - it would seem that Colin must have gotten into someone's vehicle (willingly or by force) at that spot. How could there not be a single other piece of evidence if he kept walking - especially if he went into the woods.

    I cannot imagine the distress & frustration of the Gillis family and all the searchers to find absolutely nothing!

    I know I've said it before a few times but in my mind, the missing backpack & coat absolutely should've turned up if ... 1) Colin had them at home before leaving for the party and ... 2) IF he was definitely not wearing/carrying them when he was 'last' seen by the newspaper editor. I'm pretty confident his family searched every square inch of their own house/property so if they never turned up ... well, someone has (or had) them and had a reason to hide/dispose of them. Did someone at the party take the backpack from Colin (with coat inside perhaps?) and refuse to give them back to him?

    I think if he was 'last' seen walking with them then I wouldn't be stuck on this. It just seems the newspaper editor wouldn't have noticed Colin’s shirt had he been wearing his coat.

    Sorry for going on and on about this. I know I had quoted the Tupper Lake Free Press somewhere earlier in the thread where searchers were told Colin was seen wearing his coat black side out. It was the only mention of it in any news report but it stood out to me ... who would even know the color of his coat if it was stuffed in his backpack and he wasn't wearing it? Where (or I should say who) that piece of info came from seems important.
     
  15. SunsetGirl

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    Sorry again for the long-winded post re: Colin's missing coat & backpack ... I just re-read all our posts from 8-24-14 through 9-6-2014 and this topic was well covered with very interesting 'theories' ... I just have to patiently trust that LE has also considered all of this.
     
  16. andalso

    andalso Well-Known Member

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    All good points SunsetGirl and re: the bold by me, I 100% agree!

    As far as what Colin was wearing...I would imagine AT & JA, who asked him if he wanted a ride that eve, would/should be able to corroborate the newspaper editors story. Right? Wonder what they say. I hadn't considered that angle. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ke-2am-on-11-March-2012&p=7689677#post7689677


    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/01/nyregion/two-years-later-few-answers-in-a-mans-vanishing.html?_r=3
    This is new info, right? No judgement here on the fact that the pipe was more likely used for pot, but I wonder...whose pipe was it? Can they test a pipe for dna? Did they? Would be interesting to know.

    We had heard about the license before. Still wonder why he would have had that out.
     
  17. SunsetGirl

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    Yes, the 'tobacco' pipe info is new ... it's not a big surprise all things considered. I can also understand why it was kept quiet.

    I'm curious if Colin kept his license in a wallet or carried it loose in his pocket. Would his family or girlfriend know? I could see keeping a wallet in either his coat pocket or backpack while at the party. I imagine the family has picked all these details apart already.

    Good question Andalso ... under what circumstances would he have his license out or did these 2 items fall out of his pocket in a struggle? (I know ... we've already discussed this.) If he had these 2 items tucked in a pocket would they have been in his jeans back pocket? Or did his t-shirt have a pocket?
     
  18. SunsetGirl

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    Question for Kadence ... are there any other details the family would be able to share? Please extend our best wishes to the Gillis family the next time you speak!
     
  19. SilentSleuth

    SilentSleuth Despite the name, I like to talk!

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    I actually think at this point, that if Colin was in the North Country, the searchers would've found him. What Colin needs is national attention, he could be anywhere. Some of these witness reports are misleading, I have to say!
     
  20. andalso

    andalso Well-Known Member

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    Just revisiting some articles/facts of the case.

    Article from 2013
    http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20130312/DCO01/703129876


    and


    Setting Pole is a little over a mile from Paskungameh Rd.
    https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44....28,-74.534934,2461m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!4m1!3e2
     

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