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From The Doe Network (http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/193ufny.html)
NamUs: (POST MORTEM AT LINK)
Reconstruction of Victim by Wesley Neville
Unidentified White Female
Estimated age: 33 - 37 years old
Hand Written Note
Case History
The victim was discovered in a ditch along Route 17, Southern Tier Expressway, eastbound lane, in the Town of Ellery.
The partially clad body was found by utility company employees at approximately 8:30am. The victim had been shot once in the back, twice in the chest, and once inside the mouth.
Chautauqua County is located in the Western most part of New York State between Buffalo, N.Y. and Erie, Pa.
It is believed the victim is from Canada or some European Country. Computer checks in the United States, Canada, and Interpol have been unsuccessful in locating any missing persons that fit the victims description. Attempts to identify the victim through fingerprints have also been unsuccessful.
The cases with mysterious notes and codes always catch my attention...I just believe that somehow the information there in front of us is going to jump out and at someone and there will be one of those "Eureka!" moments.
When first looking at those numbers the first thought that came to mind was area codes (five digit numbers). The first set is 24233 or 35; the second is 68301 or 7 (the '7' with the bar through it being the typical style used in Germany, Austria, and some other countries); and 74241. I can't make out the words, other than possibly the intitals 'Krb' or 'Krs' or even 'Krh'. I started running the numbers, and discovered that 24235, 68301/07, and 74241 are all area codes in Germany. In fact, they represent the towns of Laboe/Kiev to the far north; Mannheim; and Langenbrettach (a suburb of Heilbronn). If a person were to arrive in the port area of Laboe/Kiev, and were headed south to the smaller town of Langenbrettach, the route would most likely travel through the city of Mannheim.
The initials.. I know that Germans use abbreviations a lot, just as we do in the US (for instance, almost all large companies carry either a 'GmbH' or 'AG' attached to their company names to denote whether the company is publicly traded or privately held). I ran the different combinations as best I could, and found two things. 'Krb' is the abbreviation for a major rail line in Austria. its interesting to note that, on one site I looked for postal codes in Austria, "7421', '2423' and '6830' (the first four digits of the five-digit numbers listed) are all codes for Austrian towns.
'Krs'... The only thing I could find is that this is the code for the airport in Kristiansand, Norway. I didnt think that could have any relevance at all, until I checked into connections between Norway and Germany. I found that there are really only two ferries that operate between the two countries...One starting in the Oslo, the other in Kristiansand. Both arrive in Germany in Kiev.
Its fairly evident from the Doe Network entry that the woman was of European origin, I tried findiing missing persons sites with information from Austria, but couldnt find much of anything, I did find a few from Germany, but couldnt find anything relevant (the earliest missing persons cases listed being from 1996).
I believe the info is there to find. Its just a case of the right person seeing it and having that "Eureka!" moment.
*the reconstruction and note pics wouldnt copy over. just follow the link*
<MOD NOTE: Several original links throughout the thread were broken and have been edited to include the current link (when available) and images as of October 9, 2022>
NamUs: (POST MORTEM AT LINK)
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Reconstruction of Victim by Wesley Neville
Unidentified White Female
- Located on December 6, 1983 in Ellery, Chautauqua County, New York.
- Cause of death was homicide
Estimated age: 33 - 37 years old
- Approximate Height and Weight: 5'4"; 128 lbs.
- Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown eyes; brown hair with some grey. She had a wart above the left eye and a 15mm raised mole behind the left ear. Scar on throat. She had shoe size 5-6 and A+ blood type. According to an anthropologist she had at least one child 15 years prior to her death.
- Dentals: She had bridge work on the right side of her mouth which appeared to be expensive European dental work. The gold appeared to be of European origin.
- Clothing: She was wearing a white V- neck camisole (inexpensive)that was found to have been made in Carpi, Italy and non exportable, a green, brown, red checked trench coat (expensive), reversible to olive drab wool, blue gray wool crew neck pullover, plaid wool skirt (handmade) various shades of brown blue and red. The victim had no shoes or any other personal property on her. She was wearing no jewelry or evidence of jewelry. The only thing she had was a hand written note from the Blue Boy Motor Lodge in Vancouver, British Columbia. There are abbreviations and numbers on the note but the investigators have been unable to determine what they mean.
- Other: The victim had an IUD which was foreign made (Finland, Belgium and Holland), used in Canada but not distributed in the USA.
Hand Written Note
Case History
The victim was discovered in a ditch along Route 17, Southern Tier Expressway, eastbound lane, in the Town of Ellery.
The partially clad body was found by utility company employees at approximately 8:30am. The victim had been shot once in the back, twice in the chest, and once inside the mouth.
Chautauqua County is located in the Western most part of New York State between Buffalo, N.Y. and Erie, Pa.
It is believed the victim is from Canada or some European Country. Computer checks in the United States, Canada, and Interpol have been unsuccessful in locating any missing persons that fit the victims description. Attempts to identify the victim through fingerprints have also been unsuccessful.
The cases with mysterious notes and codes always catch my attention...I just believe that somehow the information there in front of us is going to jump out and at someone and there will be one of those "Eureka!" moments.
When first looking at those numbers the first thought that came to mind was area codes (five digit numbers). The first set is 24233 or 35; the second is 68301 or 7 (the '7' with the bar through it being the typical style used in Germany, Austria, and some other countries); and 74241. I can't make out the words, other than possibly the intitals 'Krb' or 'Krs' or even 'Krh'. I started running the numbers, and discovered that 24235, 68301/07, and 74241 are all area codes in Germany. In fact, they represent the towns of Laboe/Kiev to the far north; Mannheim; and Langenbrettach (a suburb of Heilbronn). If a person were to arrive in the port area of Laboe/Kiev, and were headed south to the smaller town of Langenbrettach, the route would most likely travel through the city of Mannheim.
The initials.. I know that Germans use abbreviations a lot, just as we do in the US (for instance, almost all large companies carry either a 'GmbH' or 'AG' attached to their company names to denote whether the company is publicly traded or privately held). I ran the different combinations as best I could, and found two things. 'Krb' is the abbreviation for a major rail line in Austria. its interesting to note that, on one site I looked for postal codes in Austria, "7421', '2423' and '6830' (the first four digits of the five-digit numbers listed) are all codes for Austrian towns.
'Krs'... The only thing I could find is that this is the code for the airport in Kristiansand, Norway. I didnt think that could have any relevance at all, until I checked into connections between Norway and Germany. I found that there are really only two ferries that operate between the two countries...One starting in the Oslo, the other in Kristiansand. Both arrive in Germany in Kiev.
Its fairly evident from the Doe Network entry that the woman was of European origin, I tried findiing missing persons sites with information from Austria, but couldnt find much of anything, I did find a few from Germany, but couldnt find anything relevant (the earliest missing persons cases listed being from 1996).
I believe the info is there to find. Its just a case of the right person seeing it and having that "Eureka!" moment.
*the reconstruction and note pics wouldnt copy over. just follow the link*
<MOD NOTE: Several original links throughout the thread were broken and have been edited to include the current link (when available) and images as of October 9, 2022>
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