NY NY - Joseph Helt, 17, hiking Sam's Point ice caves, Ellenville, 16 Jan 1987

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  1. apearn

    apearn Paratrooper John Doe, May 1984, Florida #UP1254

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    I don't remember who it was but there are news articles that mention it.
     
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  2. apearn

    apearn Paratrooper John Doe, May 1984, Florida #UP1254

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  3. Satch

    Satch Well-Known Member

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    I believe that the boys killed Joe over a drug deal. If you agree, how do you think they did it? The car never got stuck in the snow. Joe's body is probably buried somewhere on that mountain path.

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    I doubt he was ever buried, given the time of the year this happened and the ground probably frozen. I'd say the terrain gave plenty of opportunities to dispose of a body where it wouldn't likely be found.
     
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    Bumping up case for Joseph and his family. May the truth come to light.
     
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  6. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    JAN 16, 2021
    [...]

    According to witness statements provided to the New York State Police, Joe was partying with some friends at Mount Cathalia, an abandoned ski lodge turned popular hangout spot, just outside Ellenville.

    Late into the night and into the early morning hours of Saturday, January 17, the partying continued. Joe and three of his friends — JL, WM and KD — eventually left the lodge for a late-night drive in JL’s Subaru. At some point, the vehicle became stuck in the snow on the side of Sam’s Point Road, a road that winds through a preserve in the Shawangunk Ridge.

    After multiple attempts to get the car out, a frustrated Joe walked down the mountain alone, in the dark, in an effort to find help, his friends told police. It was the last time Joe was ever seen.

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    Joe’s family filed a missing persons report on January 17 with the Ellenville Police Department and a massive search was launched immediately that weekend. The small village department was soon joined by New York State Police (NYSP), forest rangers, family and friends. They utilized helicopters and tracking dogs and scoured miles of land that consisted of caves and deep crevices. But the snow kept falling, and was not letting up.

    [...]

    After several days of searching, their efforts were ultimately halted by the snowstorm which lasted long into the week.

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    Searches resumed in the spring when the snow had melted and the frozen ground had thawed. But there was no trace of Joe, not even one of his shoes or a piece of clothing.

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    Captain Tripodo told the New York Times in 2011 that the New York State Police interviewed two of the friends, KD and WM, both of whom were Joe’s classmates, as well as JL, who was 21. He added that the men abandoned JL’s car and walked home shortly after Joe left.

    Though the authorities initially considered these three men persons of interest who “offered us information,” Captain Tripodo said, the police found no evidence of a crime. He added that efforts to interview the men again throughout the years were unsuccessful.

    [...]

    Investigator Schoonmaker added that at this time, the New York State Police have no reason to reclassify this case as anything other than an “active missing persons investigation.” She said that she does believe there is “more information available out there” and encourages the public to come forward with any tips.

    [...]

    Anyone with information about Joe’s case is asked to call the New York State Police at (845) 626-2800. His case is #SJS3009202. You can also contact the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children at 1-800-843-5678. Joe’s case number is 1150362.
     
  7. uburoi1

    uburoi1 Well-Known Member

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  8. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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  9. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Jan 31 2021
    Cold Case: Disappearance Of 17-Year-Old In Area Remains Mystery

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    Joseph Helt Photo Credit: New York State Police
    ''Joseph D. Helt disappeared in Ulster County, on Friday, Jan. 16, 1987, when he was just 17 years old, Trooper Steven Nevel said.

    ''But state police are still hopeful that someone has a clue that will break the case.

    Anyone with information regarding this case is asked to call the New York State Police in Ellenville at 845-626-2800.

    He was last seen at an outdoor party at an abandoned ski lodge off Mount Cathalia Road near Sam’s Point ice caves in Ellenville, Nevel said.

    Helt left Mount Cathalia with friends in a white Subaru to drive to the ice caves at Sam’s Point. The vehicle got stuck in the snow. Helt left the area on foot to find help and was not seen again. ''
     
  10. web-sleuth

    web-sleuth New Member

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    This disappearance is so sad. How did Joe get to the party and does anyone know why that means of transport home didn't occur? Did anyone at the party actually see him get in the Subaru with the three acquaintances? I think I read somewhere that the building used by teens for the party was destroyed shortly after Joe's disappearance. If so, who authorized that? Prayers to family and friends.
     
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    JOE HELT - NEVER FORGOTTEN
     
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