NY NY - Judith Brown, 19, Queens, 6 April 1977

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For anybody on this thread:
I copied the info on the flyer

Judith Anne Brown

Missing since April 6, 1977
From Queens, New York

Age 19 at Disappearance
Age 56 in 2014


5'4"
125 lbs. (per family)

Sandy blonde hair
(Medium to shoulder-length)
Green eyes

Extra tooth on bottom front row facing
back toward tongue


Right-handed

Hi MadamX!
I just sent a post to Penny’s Dad above - I included all my information for all the accounts I’m running to help try and find out what happened to my cousin Judy.
Her sister Anne is not currently on this missing person’s case at the moment - I took it over from her because I wanted to help, and I think it was becoming difficult to maintain for a long period of time.
Plus, I’m an investigator in New York City coincidentally (not Law Enforcement), so I have a lot of experience in investigations.

Is there some way you can post on this thread that I am the current point of contact for Judith Anne Brown’s case?

Actually - interestingly enough, I was able to get some very wonderful people to feature Judith’s case on their podcast ‘The Vanished’.

The episode should be released to the public some time in the early morning hours tomorrow- usually some time between 12:00am and 3:00am. The whole episode is about Judith, and me and another family member of mine are interviewed regarding this case.

I will post a link to the episode here once it is available on Apple Podcasts, if people are patreon members they already have access to this episode (just FYI).

Thank you so much for keeping Judy’s case alive on these forums. I plan on updating anybody on this thread about case details and anybody can feel free to ask me questions or contact me with any information.

My family and I want to find out what happened to Judith, once and for all. Her mother is still alive and I’d love to give my Great Aunt some closure.

Thanks for everything!
- Julian
 

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The Vanished Podcast just released an episode about Judith's disappearance.
EPISODE 342: Judith Brown — The Vanished Podcast

19-year-old Judith Brown disappeared from New York City in April of 1977. Judith lived on her own, so her family wasn’t immediately aware that she was missing. Judith’s family learned she was missing when the FBI came knocking at their door. They were shocked to learn that Judith had disappeared along with someone else, a murderer who had escaped from a local mental health facility. More than 45 years later, both of them remain missing. For many years, Judith’s family kept quiet about this. It was too upsetting to reopen those wounds. As the years wore on, a younger generation of Judith’s family took an interest in finding answers. Today, they are left to sift through the remaining clues passed down through family members and old documents.

If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Judith Brown, please contact the NYPD Missing Persons Squad at 212-694-7781.

You can follow this case on social media at Judith Anne Brown Missing - “Vanished With a Killer.”

Special thanks to Erika from The Apex & The Abyss, and Melissa from Just the Tip-sters for voicing letters in this episode.

@Julian_Q - listening to the podcast now. So nice of you trying to find your cousin.
 

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I think it's a sensible deduction that Richard took off because of the threat being locked up.

But what I don't reconcile is if he was worried about being identified then why insist on Judith going with you. Would be easier to just go off alone without the extra attention or hassle of a partner. Easier to disappear, easier all the way around.

The fact they didn't find any bodies gives me hope in this case more than others.
 

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Hi MadamX!
I just sent a post to Penny’s Dad above - I included all my information for all the accounts I’m running to help try and find out what happened to my cousin Judy.
Her sister Anne is not currently on this missing person’s case at the moment - I took it over from her because I wanted to help, and I think it was becoming difficult to maintain for a long period of time.
Plus, I’m an investigator in New York City coincidentally (not Law Enforcement), so I have a lot of experience in investigations.

Is there some way you can post on this thread that I am the current point of contact for Judith Anne Brown’s case?

Actually - interestingly enough, I was able to get some very wonderful people to feature Judith’s case on their podcast ‘The Vanished’.

The episode should be released to the public some time in the early morning hours tomorrow- usually some time between 12:00am and 3:00am. The whole episode is about Judith, and me and another family member of mine are interviewed regarding this case.

I will post a link to the episode here once it is available on Apple Podcasts, if people are patreon members they already have access to this episode (just FYI).

Thank you so much for keeping Judy’s case alive on these forums. I plan on updating anybody on this thread about case details and anybody can feel free to ask me questions or contact me with any information.

My family and I want to find out what happened to Judith, once and for all. Her mother is still alive and I’d love to give my Great Aunt some closure.

Thanks for everything!
- Julian
You're doing a great job Julian! Keep it up!
 

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The Vanished Podcast just released an episode about Judith's disappearance.
EPISODE 342: Judith Brown — The Vanished Podcast

19-year-old Judith Brown disappeared from New York City in April of 1977. Judith lived on her own, so her family wasn’t immediately aware that she was missing. Judith’s family learned she was missing when the FBI came knocking at their door. They were shocked to learn that Judith had disappeared along with someone else, a murderer who had escaped from a local mental health facility. More than 45 years later, both of them remain missing. For many years, Judith’s family kept quiet about this. It was too upsetting to reopen those wounds. As the years wore on, a younger generation of Judith’s family took an interest in finding answers. Today, they are left to sift through the remaining clues passed down through family members and old documents.

If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Judith Brown, please contact the NYPD Missing Persons Squad at 212-694-7781.

You can follow this case on social media at Judith Anne Brown Missing - “Vanished With a Killer.”

Special thanks to Erika from The Apex & The Abyss, and Melissa from Just the Tip-sters for voicing letters in this episode.

@Julian_Q - listening to the podcast now. So nice of you trying to find your cousin.
Thank you! I’m trying to cover all my bases but I need other people’s assistance so I can gather as much evidence as I can for this case so I can petition to have Law Enforcement actively work on this case.

I hope the podcast was informative and helpful! Feel free to share it wherever you like and give people my contact information.
 

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Thank you! I’m trying to cover all my bases but I need other people’s assistance so I can gather as much evidence as I can for this case so I can petition to have Law Enforcement actively work on this case.

I hope the podcast was informative and helpful! Feel free to share it wherever you like and give people my contact information.
Hello Julian you are really doing amazing and have uncovered so much! i just heard the podcast Wow!
Sorry I am not on websleuths as often as I used to be. I have had an interest in Judith’s case since I first read about it years ago. I am from Queens also, so I gravitate towards these cases. I feel a connection to them.
I do have some questions. Maybe you or someone can answer. Does anyone know if Richard had a car? Does anyone know a height and approx weight on Richard?
I would love to help find her I really would.

I
 

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I posted this a while ago on Tammy Alexander’s thread. So Iam cross posting it here. The last man that Tammy Alexander was seen with has a resemblance to Richard. Now listening to the podcast and knowing that he was suspected of others makes me wonder even more.

 

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Hello Julian you are really doing amazing and have uncovered so much! i just heard the podcast Wow!
Sorry I am not on websleuths as often as I used to be. I have had an interest in Judith’s case since I first read about it years ago. I am from Queens also, so I gravitate towards these cases. I feel a connection to them.
I do have some questions. Maybe you or someone can answer. Does anyone know if Richard had a car? Does anyone know a height and approx weight on Richard?
I would love to help find her I really would.

I
I don't think Julian is active very often either but I just texted him and told him to get his butt on here lol. I have no doubt that he'll be excited that someone local has taken an interest.
 
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I posted this a while ago on Tammy Alexander’s thread. So Iam cross posting it here. The last man that Tammy Alexander was seen with has a resemblance to Richard. Now listening to the podcast and knowing that he was suspected of others makes me wonder even more.


Hello Julian you are really doing amazing and have uncovered so much! i just heard the podcast Wow!
Sorry I am not on websleuths as often as I used to be. I have had an interest in Judith’s case since I first read about it years ago. I am from Queens also, so I gravitate towards these cases. I feel a connection to them.
I do have some questions. Maybe you or someone can answer. Does anyone know if Richard had a car? Does anyone know a height and approx weight on Richard?
I would love to help find her I really would.

I
Are you still in queens MadamX? I’m currently in Queens and am still working on this case as much as I can. I’ve learned a lot more since the podcast, but not a lot of things that will lead me to answers yet, unfortunately.

Richard did not have a car at the time of his disappearance, but his family lived approximately a 15-20 drive from Creedmoor. I know the FBI investigated in an attempt to find him, but I have not yet been able to look at their files to determine what they learned at the time.

I would hope they looked into this possibility, if Richard’s family had any missing cars at the time he disappeared with Judy. It would have been fairly simple for them to account for all of his family’s known vehicles, but looking that far back in the records now is probably not possible.
So I’m trying to obtain whatever records exist of the investigation they did at the time.

But for note my gut tells me that he didn’t have a car. I can’t even verify that he knew how to drive! If he didn’t, then that might eliminate that theory.

Approx height and Weight? At the moment I believe Richard was 5’10-6’ tall, and probably weighed around 155-165 lbs. I can’t fully verify that either, but I know someone who knew him at the time that I could ask if he remembers.

Thank you for your long time interest in finding answers for Judy. Send me a private message on here or Facebook and I can discuss some more things about her case with you.
 
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