Then there is that classic program where the DA wanted to protect the rights of prisoners at central booking waiting to be arraigned. Have a process where the arrestee is brought to a room to be interviewed to give him one last chance to tell his story to get the record straight. They did this thousands of times. In a very small percentage ( 5%) the charges were dropped. LOL. There was an honest judge whose name escapes me put an end to all of that. DA didn't like it. You see the DA was so concerned with the rights of his defendants it never occurred to him that they in a court building where many lawyers are. Why didn't he go the extra mile and have lawyers, maybe legal aid to sit in while these interviews were going on. Intelligence gathering for other more serious crimes with cooperation agreements was the purpose. What really was the purpose was to gather more incriminating evidence against the defendant. That Judge suggested once you are in the court building awaiting arraignment it is presumed you are protected by counsel simply because you are where you are.