Resolved NY - Kings Co, Jamaica Bay, UnsFem 23-33, UP15911, tattoos, breast implants, Sep'16 - N/A

[madamx]

I can't find any updates on Jiang, Karen either, but would not she be a bit too young at 14 to have all those tattoos and breast implants?

I am starting to think maybe it would be good to share it on some Russian FB or other media pages too (due to cross on her finger), just in case. I think Orkut (equivalent to FB) or something like that is big over there.

It would be also good to find out from LE or NamUs if there was or was not serial number on that one recovered breast implant. That seemed to be trending question on her case on FB.

Yes Al Ka I thought she was a bit young too..I also have been on this site looking to see if I find any clues.. Its a forum kind of like websleuths where men talk about streetwalkers escorts and strippers.. I thought it was interesting because if you look under Brooklyn they mention locations near where this girl was found and they describe the women and name them by their first names..
In one thread they even talk about the girl Jennifer that was found a couple of weeks after this jane doe http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ed-brooklyn-park-found-dead-article-1.2813310... I have been trying to see if I see anything that might be a clue


This is the site but be aware you will get a pop up everytime you want to go to another screen that says sign in.. but just click the x on the top and you don't have to
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?605-Brooklyn-NYC.. I hope I am not breaking any rules by posting this site or the image below.. If I am It can be deleted..



' and yes Al Ka.. I think sharing her on Russian or Polish FB sights might be good.. as there are a lot of Russian and Polish in Brooklyn in that area also

 

[madamx]

here is an aerial map as to where the body was found
https://www.bing.com/maps?q=67th+st+colonial+road+brooklyn+ny&mkt=en&FORM=HDRSC4

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/woman-body-floats-shore-brooklyn-article-1.2792966

The partially decomposed body of a woman washed ashore in Brooklyn on Wednesday, police said.
The body floated to shore near Floyd Bennett Field from Jamaica Bay, near Aviation Road, just before 5 p.m., officials said.

SKIP THE MAP ABOVE.. It goes to where they found the girl Jennifer Cohen that was found at the end of Sept 2016 in Brooklyn.. sorry.. This is the correct map!!!!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...5df738514dc18b!8m2!3d40.5827703!4d-73.8857372

 

[madamx]

This girl is a couple of inches taller but I thought I would post her since she is a chronic runaway

http://nampn.org/cases/harshman_jennifer.html

Jennifer Harshman



Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: June 7, 2015 from Port Jervis, Orange County, New York
Classification: Runaway
Date Of Birth: April 28, 1999
Age: 16
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 120 lbs
Hair Color: Blonde
Eye Color: Blue
Race: White
Gender: Female
USNY Case Number: 18521


Details of Disappearance
Jennifer is a chronic runaway. She has been previously located in unknown areas of New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Jennifer may be in need of medical attention

 

[Emorganb]

I never post, mainly lurk. But I wanted to point out that after looking at the cross on her finger it actually looks like the cross of Lorraine, not the Russian orthodox cross. My fiancé has one which belonged to his grandmother whose name is Lorraine. There could be some tie to the name Lorraine, or France or Hungary according to google.

 

[madamx]

I know this is a long shot and there is no mention of tattoos but a lot could happen from when she went missing until the body in Jamaica bay was found.. if its her. the height and weight and hair match up..

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gonzales_samantha.html

 

[madamx]

This girl went missing from NY again it was in 2013.. but a lot can happen since then

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?230973-NY-Amanda-King-28-Glenville-16-Oct-2013

she walked out of rehab in Glenville NY

 

[madamx]

I thought I post this woman even though she went missing a couple of years earlier.. it was in New Jersey Kasey Prim

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?325967-NJ-Kacey-Prim-23-Audubon-3-Jan-2011

 

[madamx]

this has been the case that I have been consumed with recently.. and I Have gotten a couple of theories on this woman.. I still don't know who she is but I got some theories.

#1 I think she could of been an overdose victim.. Because I have seemed to notice here in NYC when your with someone that overdoses the thing to do is to just dump them somewhere away from you..

#2 in 2016 I also did notice quite a few women just randomly turning up dead.. But never anything written about Trauma or shot or stabbed or anything.. just dead..unidentified and dead and you never hear anything again.. which makes me wonder if they overdosed and were dumped. She had the syringe In tounge tattoo which I thought it could have something to do with drugs but someone on FB confirmed it by saying addicts inject themselves in the tongue.. I knew of in between toes but never tongue https://www.facebook.com/permalink....=feed_comment_reply&notif_id=1504470736934744

#3 this quote came from the Unidentified and Missing FB page.. it really made my wheels start turning when I read it:

Unidentified And Missing People Very interesting comment was posted on different site, copy/pasting here for relevance and future searches into her case) - "The tattoo on the fingers showing the cross is typical of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina (Former Yugoslavia). It would take photos of tattoos to be published on the site of ex-Yugoslavian immigrants." And another comment - "It's not Russian. Such tattoos wore women in Bosnia (one of the republics in the former Yugoslavia). Now it is the republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is very likely that she and her family moved to the US after the war. A large number of families with small children received immigrant visas from the Church's help. That is why I think it would be effective to publish tattoo photographs on immigrant pages from the former Yugoslavia."


This made me think of that Yugloslavian Girl Natasha Jugo (here is her thread on websleuths http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...Beach-24-June-2013-missing-since-March/page17) who went missing and Supposedly committed suicide by drowning in the beach.. she was from Bayside Queens and had pretty much the same stats(height weight hair color and length) this unidentified girl had.. She had tattoos you can see them in some of her photos.. not as big as the unidentified.. she seemed to either be a stripper into bsdm by some of her leather outfits she was photographed in..someone oon her thread mentioned she was possibly on craigslist or backpage.. But Just something about her reminded me of this Unidentified.. well they were tying her to the LISK.. which I have read is not just one guy..which brings me back to this unidentified.. She was found in the south shore in Brooklyn.. but still its the south shore just like Gilgo Beach is..


This just happened august 2017
http://www.qchron.com/editions/sout...cle_70483df5-0ded-5892-957a-43747dc80534.html

and the other girl that was dumped in the Gowanas in Brooklyn just recently.. the only difference is she was dismembered
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170630/red-hook/body-red-hook-tattoo-mother

so basically this theory is.. the LISK is moving form Gilgo Beach toward the Brooklyn.. I have supplied a map to show where Jamaica bay is to Gilgo Beach... it could be someone with a boat that dumps these girls out of their boats after they are done with them?

https://www.bing.com/maps?q=long+island+map&FORM=HDRSC4

Ok all that and we still don't know who she is...just thought that maybe something I wrote might spark something in someone!!

 

[madamx]

Bumping this girl its been one year since she was found

 

[madamx]

http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county...ears_nj_mom_continues_to_hope_her_daught.html

Caitlin Kearny missing from NJ since June 15 2012 http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kearney_caitlin.html
https://www.facebook.com/GiveMeHopeBringMeHome/posts/1601734676764417

PITMAN, NJ -- Caitlin Kearney's family has not seen her in years.
Mother Denise Urevick has photos of her daughter lining the walls inside her home in Pitman, New Jersey. They are the only images Kearney's daughter Lily, who she abandoned as a newborn, has seen of Kearney since her mother left.
Up until June 2012, Kearney and Lily were living with Kearney's grandmother. That all changed when one day, Kearney walked in the home and heard her grandmother upset and talking about her on the phone.
“Caitlin just turned around and walked out,” Urevick, 57, told the South Jersey Times. “No one had heard from her that day.”
Kearney disappeared after what her mother suggested was a losing battle against drugs, leaving behind her family life and plans to study nursing.
“When she first left, I had heard there were sightings of her,” Urevick said. “I knew she was OK. I reported her missing when the information stopped coming in.”
Urevick began searching for Kearney in Camden. Kearney had run into problems with the law there and sometimes Urevick heard rumors that made her uneasy.

 

[WesternArtist]

I have looked and looked for matches for this one and it is tough. Initially I got a strong West Coast feeling from the overall tattoos. I knew a girl in Oregon with some of the same ones. She was a stripper, had a boyfriend in a metal bend, was biracial, didn't do hard drugs... It's not her -she is alive and well, but this is the type of girl I think this could be.

One potential match I found who would be a bit taller but I think may have potential is Katherine Saleeby: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/30034 Tattoo on left shoulder, listed as White/Other, missing from California but appears to be from North Carolina, and there is someone with the same name (I think it's her because the age matches) with arrest records in Connecticut. http://fairfield.dailyvoice.com/pol...-fairfield-medical-center-parking-lot/447350/ http://www.newstimes.com/policereports/article/Three-charged-after-drug-bust-5371884.php

She appears to be a girl who went through some drastic changes in a short amount of time. Her instagram account is pretty vanilla:
https://www.instagram.com/katsaleeby11/?hl=en
Her google+ photo looks like she may have been an escort:
https://plus.google.com/109644570143429804096
It appears she was involved in narcotics before her disappearance: https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/detail/?arrest=7993899
I believe she is originally from North Carolina because it's listed on her Explore Talent profile: https://www.exploretalent.com/katherinesaleeby (I think traffickers use this site)

 

[madamx]

Yes WesternArtist this one has been a tough one I know!!..I wish there was a recon. I also don't believe she is a real new Yorker. Good call on Katherine, I noticed in the talent page she also had a belly button piercing and tattoo everything sounds on point with this girl.(hair can always be dyed). except she was a bit taller at 5"6..Someone must of seen the UID around someplace at sometime.

I have looked and looked for matches for this one and it is tough. Initially I got a strong West Coast feeling from the overall tattoos. I knew a girl in Oregon with some of the same ones. She was a stripper, had a boyfriend in a metal bend, was biracial, didn't do hard drugs... It's not her -she is alive and well, but this is the type of girl I think this could be.

One potential match I found who would be a bit taller but I think may have potential is Katherine Saleeby: https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/30034 Tattoo on left shoulder, listed as White/Other, missing from California but appears to be from North Carolina, and there is someone with the same name (I think it's her because the age matches) with arrest records in Connecticut. http://fairfield.dailyvoice.com/pol...-fairfield-medical-center-parking-lot/447350/ http://www.newstimes.com/policereports/article/Three-charged-after-drug-bust-5371884.php

She appears to be a girl who went through some drastic changes in a short amount of time. Her instagram account is pretty vanilla:
https://www.instagram.com/katsaleeby11/?hl=en
Her google+ photo looks like she may have been an escort:
https://plus.google.com/109644570143429804096
It appears she was involved in narcotics before her disappearance: https://www.localcrimenews.com/welcome/detail/?arrest=7993899
I believe she is originally from North Carolina because it's listed on her Explore Talent profile: https://www.exploretalent.com/katherinesaleeby (I think traffickers use this site)

 

[WesternArtist]

Looking deeper into the potential Bosnian connection...
According to a cursory search, the largest Bosnian communities in the US are in Saint Louis, Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Jacksonville, and Houston. I tried to find recent MP cases for Chicago but I know that a lot of jurisdictions don't add cases to NamUs for a few years so I thought that local MP sites would be the best but the Illinois one seems to not be updated much: http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/missing.cfm

I have looked through the Saint Louis cases for any women fitting the age and timeline with names that sound like they could be Bosnian (without any additional info, this is the best I could do). I only found one case but can't find more info about it: https://www.mshp.dps.missouri.gov/CJ51/Search?id=&column=date&page=3&personType=A&county=

If she weren't reported missing for a long time, potentially this one too:

 

[Al Ka]

Western Artist what a great and extensive research. Thank you. Katherine Saleeby is/was beautiful girl. On one of the photos you can see her tattoo on the shoulder (cross) which of course could have been covered up later with tattoo of mouth with syringe. I have noticed belly ring too. There does not seem to be corset tattoo showing when wearing tshirt, also no spider tattoo above/on breast visible. Even though hair appears very dark compared to UIDs light brown/blond, I would not ruled her out yet.

photo of Katherine's tattoo
https://www.instagram.com/p/QDkuHMunKR/?hl=en&taken-by=katsaleeby11

I will try to see if there is anything more out there on missing Julijana Jusic and Pamm Stojanovic. Pamm is not eastern name though and Stojanovic could be her married surname only but that is just assumption at this point.

PS: I see Pamm was only 18 when missing, so probably not married. Julijana was only 17. They both sound a bit too young for many tattoos and breast implants, but will have a look.

 

[WesternArtist]

Western Artist what a great and extensive research. Thank you. Katherine Saleeby is/was beautiful girl. On one of the photos you can see her tattoo on the shoulder (cross) which of course could have been covered up later with tattoo of mouth with syringe. I have noticed belly ring too. There does not seem to be corset tattoo showing when wearing tshirt, also no spider tattoo above/on breast visible. Even though hair appears very dark compared to UIDs light brown/blond, I would not ruled her out yet.

photo of Katherine's tattoo
https://www.instagram.com/p/QDkuHMunKR/?hl=en&taken-by=katsaleeby11

I will try to see if there is anything more out there on missing Julijana Jusic and Pamm Stojanovic. Pamm is not eastern name though and Stojanovic could be her married surname only but that is just assumption at this point.

PS: I see Pamm was only 18 when missing, so probably not married. Julijana was only 17. They both sound a bit too young for many tattoos and breast implants, but will have a look.

Thanks for your help. Great find on Katherine's tattoo! I don't see any tattoos listed for the UID's right shoulder so unless that part of her was damaged more than the rest, she probably isn't a match.

I have searched for Bosnian names in Houston, coming up empty. I also searched Florida and while I didn't find a very reliable site I haven't seen any good potential matches there (besides the one madamx already posted). Same with Michigan. Now I am looking at LA cases. While it isn't listed as having one of the biggest Bosnian communities I think there is a substantial enough one to look. It's slow going as the site has all adults with no way to search by year -going alphabetically I'm still in the 'C' names now!

Since Pamm was reported missing after the UID was found I think Julijana is probably a more likely potential match. She would have been 20 when the UID was found so yes, a bit young. I tried to find relatives of hers by searching her last name here: https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do I found a few people but couldn't find their social media pages to get to a profile or picture of Julijana. Maybe others more savvy at that can. Here are the possible relatives I found: Admir, Agan, Alija, Asmir, Damir, Dragan, Dzevad, Elmir, Elvir, Elvira, Fahrudin, Halid, Hasiba, Ifeta, Irfan, Ismir, Jasmin/Jasmine, Joiann, Kaseama/Kasema, Nashia, Nermin, Samra, Sanel, Sefija, Sefika, Semir, Senahid, Sefira, Zijad, Shelley Jusiczyk (possibly Jusic is an abbreviation of this).

 

[Al Ka]

Since Pamm was reported missing after the UID was found I think Julijana is probably a more likely potential match. She would have been 20 when the UID was found so yes, a bit young. I tried to find relatives of hers by searching her last name here: https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do I found a few people but couldn't find their social media pages to get to a profile or picture of Julijana. Maybe others more savvy at that can. Here are the possible relatives I found: Admir, Agan, Alija, Asmir, Damir, Dragan, Dzevad, Elmir, Elvir, Elvira, Fahrudin, Halid, Hasiba, Ifeta, Irfan, Ismir, Jasmin/Jasmine, Joiann, Kaseama/Kasema, Nashia, Nermin, Samra, Sanel, Sefija, Sefika, Semir, Senahid, Sefira, Zijad, Shelley Jusiczyk (possibly Jusic is an abbreviation of this).

I saw all of them too. So far nobody is coming up with having daughter Julijana. By the way, proper spelling of her surname could be not just English way Jusic but also Jusič or perhaps Jušić.

 

[madamx]

Omg Western Artist you have really done a lot of research wow!! And Alka too, you guys rock!!! How are the FB pages going anything good to share here??.. I Love coming back to this thread and seeing others here too yay!!..This girl has been so much on my mind....

Ok I came across this girl Hailey Ann Gregory http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthread.php?31741-Hailey-Ann-Gregory-(14)-Washington and noticed she had similar tattoos on her hands as far as the crosses on her fingers and this Crazy thought ran across my head.. that here we are looking for some missing Bosnian chick.. and maybe it could just be like just and (IN) thing.. crosses on fingers.. like at one time it was words across your fingers another time tribal art tattoos were big and then there biomechanical tattoos then old school and pin ups.. there have been phases for everything tattoos included..
Sooo with that in mind.. I was just wondering if this UID just might be orthodox.. Russian, Romanian, Greek , Etc...and Not just Bosnian.. Just a thought that popped into my head..because I saw this girl with similar tattoos on her fingers... Kind of like the Hispanic girl that was dismembered in the Gowanas.. she was Hispanic with a Sanskrit tattoo that apparently was not entirely correct. http://nypost.com/2017/07/07/boyfriend-busted-in-death-of-dismembered-girlfriend/

Sadly my post does not bring us any closer but its a thought!



Speaking of Russian

 

[WesternArtist]

I agree, the cross on a finger could be a trend. I've noticed small symbol tattoos on fingers are popular among young women today. That's a really good reminder about Jennifer Londono who I think was Colombian having a Sanskrit tattoo.

I did find social media profiles for a few Jusic's in the Saint Louis area but none had relative or friends named Julijana. I'm still chewing through all missing women in California and Oregon mostly on a hunch I have based on the types of tattoos on the UID. One thing that is tough about this case is that her age range would make her either not a runaway or a runaway who survived without family contact for some time... I'm seeing many women too young to be her in all databases.

 

[WesternArtist]

I have looked through all Oregon cases (as per my hunch on the tattoos). There are several I could not rule out because there is absolutely no other info on them, couldn't find them on facebook, etc. I did happen to find a missing Ukrainian woman Olga Valeryevna Ponomareva http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/ponomareva_olga.html http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...as-Co-27-April-2004&highlight=olga+Ponomareva I believe that is a very very long shot as she is shorter and would have been missing for over 11 years before the UID was found however, it sounds like investigators think she may have started a new life.

 

[Flowermont]

Been looking over this thread for a while and think I may have found a potential match:

Anastasiya Ovetsky
Would have been 33 at the time
Height is about right
Possibly traveling to NY
Birth mark on leg
Speaks Russian


http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/ovetsky_anastasiya.html