NY - Officer Daniel Pantaleo used deadly chokehold on Eric Garner, Staten Island, July 2014

Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by popsicle, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    I don't have a broad opinion.. I take each case at a time. When you lock yourself into an opinion then you can not see the truth in that case.
     


  2. Muffet

    Muffet Autocorrect is my worst enema

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  3. Solitaryone

    Solitaryone Active Member

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    I agree with some here that what happened to EG after he was on the ground is troubling. I watched the two youtube videos yesterday, and I wondered if EG was even alive before he was put on the gurney. The EMT non-response bothers me a lot, and more so than anything else in the videos. However, though I think this could have been handled better by the cops, there's no way I'd consider this murder. The truth is that if EG had not indicated to the cops that they were not going to arrest him, none of this would have happened. And tragic as this case is, that is the bottom line. EG let the cops know that that day he wasn't going to submit to them. His choice. Unfortunately for EG, the wrong choice. I think given these same set of circumstances, the GJ had no choice but to return a No Bill. Not to mention all the other cops were given immunity, and the EMT's conduct was not in their power to decide anything on.

    These "protests" have nothing to do with EG, just as they were never really about MB. I wish LE would have their own organized nation wide protests against the MSM/Politicians who are leading the anti-law enforcement/pro-**** agendas!
     
  4. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    It is interesting because the family of the 12 yr old shot in Ohio, has filed a civil suit. The only case to do so, so far.
     
  5. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, Thanks.
     
  6. bexlex

    bexlex New Member

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  7. SStarr33

    SStarr33 Inactive

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    I thought Trayvon's parents won a civil suit.
     
  8. Ray_of_hope

    Ray_of_hope Verified registered nurse

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    Watching Anderson Cooper and just saw the new phone video posted above with the female EMT. She had her fingers on EG's mandible and not on his neck. Did anyone else notice this?
     
  9. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    I don't count that case, not LE related. Oh crap is going down in NY. People on the ground, LE arresting them.

    To answer your question...the community assoc settled with them iirc.
     
  10. bexlex

    bexlex New Member

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    At first I thought she was chewing gum...but the audio could be edited there. I don't want to allow my thoughts to go down that path ..... cuz the ambient noise is fine so someone had to go to some trouble to edit it. UGH
     
  11. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    They are flooding Grand Central Station.
     
  12. al66pine

    al66pine Well-Known Member

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    sbm bbm

    Would MSM present LE groups straightforwardly as LEO professionals, respectful of the public, yet concerned for their own safety?
    If so, could be enlightening to many.

    Or control crackpots? jackbooted militants? flaky fanatics? violent sadists? screwball psychos?
    Fanning the flames = better ratings.

    JM2cts.
     
  13. bwt42

    bwt42 Former Member

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    I don't know about the AC video, but the one I just watched on youtube shows the EMT feels his neck then talks to him.
     
  14. CHERIE.T

    CHERIE.T Former Member

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    appalling
     
  15. CHERIE.T

    CHERIE.T Former Member

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    KEVINinTO Former Member

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    From twitter

    Got News @GotNewsDotCom ยท
    BREAKING: #EricGarner Had At Least 8 Domestic Incident Reports Filed Against Him http://ift.tt/1tSLXZr
     
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    Bumping up my previous post as the thread has gone completely off the rails.
    This thread is temporarily closed for review while I clean up...
     
  18. Harmony 2

    Harmony 2 Administrator

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    The thread is open again. Race discussions are off limits. Please remember that when posting. This is not new and is standard across the board. Thank you...
     
  19. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    Imo its all getting mixed up. LE has the power to arrest somone after breaking some law. In this instance he was never placed under arrest. In order to be placed under arrest a charge must be levied. I have speed in the past, he had been selling cigs in the past. What noone has seen or heard about is FIsrt charge X. As a result of charge X the indiv then "resisited" being placed under arrest for charge.

    What was he being arrested for? Anyone seen an arrest report.

    Its a legal impossibility to be resisting arrest unless one is first arrested for somewthing. Throughout there was no mention that he was "caught" on that day doing what he had on some other days - what was he under arrest for?

    There has been no officer x approached x after observing a cig sale to place him under arrest for x. All along the cig selling has been referred to in the past, there has been no inidcation of the reason for LE interacting with him from the onset. Can anyone hear the audio in the very beginning what was the dialog?

    Reason for interaction in the first place


    My take was this one was a power control issue
     
  20. Archangel7

    Archangel7 Verified Law Enforcement

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    The vid audio speaks about a man in a red shirt he just sold to. Regardless, it could have been an investigation of a trespassing complaint, loitering, whatever. Or as they were talking to him he simply escalated to become pre-assaultive/disorderly. A LEO can lay charges anytime. They don't require pre-filing.
     

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