NY - Officers pry 1-year-old from Brooklyn mom's arms during arrest, 7 Dec 2018

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  1. SugarQueen

    SugarQueen Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!!
     
  2. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Yes, we will have to agree to disagree.
     
  3. kkdj

    kkdj Well-Known Member

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  4. human

    human On Time Out

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    That LE person needs help. Power, control issues.

    LE are known as peace officers.
     
  5. kimlynn

    kimlynn Well-Known Member

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    I would hope you wouldn't have to wait two to four hours in line at a grocery store,but if you did I wouldn't have a problem with you sitting on the floor or having a snack.
    The women in this case waited several hours and after waiting that long was told to leave.
    I can understand why she might have questioned that directive.
    Losing the help she needed because someone decided to throw their weight around on a power trip. IMO
     
  6. JerseyGirl

    JerseyGirl Staff Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    Jazmine Headley appeared in court in New Jersey Wednesday to face an outstanding warrant on charges of credit card theft and trafficking in personal identifying information. Headley pleaded not guilty and was accepted into pretrial intervention, a program for first-time offenders. She must do 20 hours of community service and has to pay part of the restitution and $125 in court fees. She was released without bail and will have a clean record if she does what the court has required.

    Meantime, two HRA peace officers have been placed on modified duty and an investigation is underway after video showed an excruciating tug of war between a group of officers and Headley.

    Mom whose baby ripped away gets pretrial intervention in NJ
     
  7. bwt42

    bwt42 Well-Known Member

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    Except there are posters that say there is something wrong with people that have an opinion different than theirs.
     
  8. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    Not what I have seen. The caliber of younger, newer officers worries me. Not putting down LEO, but really wondering about the training that is occurring.

    What I have seen, over a 30 year career, is an abrupt shift in how officers approach a situation, it used to be more low key, common sense, "Andy Griffin" type. Now, it is more like the officer in "Terminator 3". Okay, maybe not that bad...but definitely a more SWAT type atmosphere. Obey orders, NOW!

    I can't say much, after all, I am not a police officer. Maybe situations merit this response now.

    That being said, I think that this woman really has some issues, and needs help, not a SWAT team. I guess, I am glad I am out of that field now.
     
  9. sloane7777

    sloane7777 Well-Known Member

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    There is a great article in thecut.com that is pretty good but I don't know if we allow the link its on the front page and it gives a good view of the problems of late (the new reality as I call it )
     
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  10. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    Is there a video of the ENTIRE exchange? Usually all i see in these cases are AFTER the escalation.

    Those that are saying LE or Security should have approached with the 'Ma'am, i see there are no seats, can we find you somewhere better to sit' politely spoken question...... What if she then responds "$%CK You, i'll sit wherever the #$(* i want, you can't tell me what to do'. How should it proceed? Because so far, thats the response i see coming out of MANY of the confrontations that end this way. And i HEAR it daily. Thus why everyone whips out their phone. Its all entertainment these days. And why is it that in almost ALL of these 'episodes', the 'victim' either has warrants, or charges, or criminal history?
     
  11. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    Pure speculation on your part.
     
  12. sloane7777

    sloane7777 Well-Known Member

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    See I think the natural assumption should be that she didn't escalate it especially, since NY people are falling all over themselves to condemn LE 's actions and she might have unpaid fines etc , I don't think because she was in an assistance office we ( not me ) should assume shes a **** or something , I think that's kind of an issue.
     
  13. sloane7777

    sloane7777 Well-Known Member

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    I keep forgetting that word keeps being blanked out
     
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  14. human

    human On Time Out

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    So what if she replies nastily. As a teacher, we were trained how to deal with kids with issues and anger. Deescalation.

    Understanding.

    We have these same people in the classrrom.
     
  15. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    So true. Worked with kids like that for years in Special Education. No take down squad. Although, schools are now calling in police officers more often.
     
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  16. SugarQueen

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    I hope we get to see a video of the beginning of all of this.
     
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  19. kimlynn

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    She went up to the officer and bit her? LOL
    According to your link it happened during the scuffle.
    Also from your link:
    The commissioner of the department of social services completed his review Friday evening and said there were several opportunities for the incident to have been handled differently.

    He apologized to Headley and her son and said the DSS will conduct training sessions for all HRA Peace Officers within the next 90 days with an emphasis on techniques for deescalating disputes.
     
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    7 On Your Side: Victims protest, demand reforms at HRA

    NEW YORK CITY (WABC) --
    After a trio of 7 On Your Side Investigates reports detailing how some of New York City's so-called "peace officers" are accused of aggressive and sometimes violent arrests, alleged victims and their supporters are calling on the city to investigate.

    They protested Thursday against what they say is a pattern of abuse and violence by police officers of the Human Resources Administration, perpetrated, they say, against the most vulnerable citizens seeking the city's help.
     
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