NY - Samuel Todd, 24, New York City, 1 January 1984

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  1. gaia227

    gaia227 I have never taken any exercise except sleeping an

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    This case is interesting especially when you consider that in the following years several men vanish on New Years Eve in NYC.

    Sam (24) was a Yale Divinity Student who was in New York City with his brother Adam staying with friends who had a loft in Chinatown. They were looking forward to ringing in 1984 especially since they were big fans of Orwell's 1984. They ended up having an impromptu party at the loft they were staying at. Around 3am Sam said he felt intoxicated and dizzy so his brother suggested they step out for fresh air. Sam decided once outside he wanted to go for a jog presumably to try to shake of the dizziness. He was an avid runner so this would not be uncommon for him. Adam watched his brother job towards Houston street and then went back to the party but quickly became concerned about Sam and went back out to look for him. Sam had gone out with no coat or any of his belongings. Before long a big group of party-goers were walking the streets of Chinatown and SoHo looking for him. It took 3 days before the police and the press began to take it seriously. No sign of Sam was every seen again.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/29/nyregion/new-york-observed-without-a-trace.html?pagewanted=all


    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/todd_samuel.html

    http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2009/09/010184-samuel-todd-24-new-york-city-ny.html

    What makes this more interesting is the fact that Sam is not the only man in NYC to disappear from New Yrs eve parties. Is it possible these cases are connected?


    9 Years Later Vernon Jones (23)vanished on New Yrs Eve 1993 from a party. He had been at a party in the East Village at a friends house. He left in the early hours to head home and he has never been seen or heard from since.
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jones_vernon.html

    http://www.managementresourcesny.com/vernon-kent-jones.htm

    http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2009/10/010193-vernon-cameron-kent-jones-23-new.html

    5 years later on New Years Eve Larry Andrews (22) was in Times Square celebrating the new year. He and some friends went to a party and then boarded the train for Times Sq at 10:30. They went to a couple bars there and he was last seen outside of Houlihan's bar. They watched the ball drop and when his sister turned around he was gone. Allegedly he was seen in a bar in Grand Central Station by fellow residents of Brewster, NY. They stopped and chatted briefly. The last sighting of him was around 2:00am when other residents of Brewster, NY saw Larry running from the Grand Central Terminal. He was only wearing a t-shirt. His turtleneck and jacket were gone. He was also wearing a Yankee's ball cap which his friends said he was not wearing earlier in the evening. 44 days later Larry's body was found floating in the East River. larry was familar with the city and he and his friends had gone into the city on New Yrs Eve for several years.

    http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2008/05/010198-larry-andrews-22new-york-ny.html

    I also noticed that Ronald Pinder went missing on 01/01/93. He does not fit the profile but I thought I would post it anyone
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pinder_ronald.html
     
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  3. gaia227

    gaia227 I have never taken any exercise except sleeping an

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    shadowangel Black cats consider me unlucky.

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    Whining? Are you whining? There's no whining in Websleuthing!!!

    I've been trying to figure out if the NYPD website has a missing persons list, but I certainly can't find it. Most wanted, yes, but not missing.... It would be interesting to see if there have been any others reported in the intervening years. Then again, if someone decided to target a random street person, who would know?
    If one were to want to disappear, NYC around New Year's Eve would be the time to do it. It just doesnt seem in character for the people listed. The NYPD must be swamped for the few days before and after New Year's, so the amount of attention paid to these cases right away has to be questioned.

    I did notice, while perusing The Doe Network, that there were other disappearances in New York on New Years Day of various years (1974 in Newburgh, for example, which is about 75 miles from the city but a straight shot up the NY Thruway).
     
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    gaia227 I have never taken any exercise except sleeping an

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    gaia227 I have never taken any exercise except sleeping an

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    NY State Missing - this site is not real well maintained either as I am sure there are way, way more missing people in NY than this:
    http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/wanted_and_missing/missing/


    I tried finding a list of unsolved deaths or homicides too considering that Larry's body was found but I don't think they even post a list. It seems to me like the NYPD does not want to public to know just how many open cases they have regarding the murdered and missing. It is reported that there are over 9000 unsolved homicides in the city. I did find a few interesting links which have nothing to do with this case at all

    Especially this one - the city's top 10 unsolved homicides (according to the Daily News):

    http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/2001/05/06/2001-05-06_the_city_s_top_10_unsolved_c.html

    This is an interesting site too:
    http://www.therestlesssleep.com/
     
  7. shadowangel

    shadowangel Black cats consider me unlucky.

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    Stacy Horn, who runs the TheRestlessSleep website, is a member here (though not active recently to my knowledge). She posted quite frequently in the Missing in WV forum some time back.
     
  8. blue_the_puppy

    blue_the_puppy New Member

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    i have not done a lot of research into any of these cases, but i am not so sure they are connected -- there are a LOT of people in nyc at any given time, but on new years eve things can get pretty crazy. from what i've read, it sounds like sam may have met with some of the riff raff that was in town for the celebration.

    it is very sad, as he seemed like a bright young man who had a lot to offer.

    wish there was more info on ronald pinder, it is mind-boggling the number of missing people out there with next to no information about them!
     
  9. gaia227

    gaia227 I have never taken any exercise except sleeping an

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    I thought her name seemed familar and I was wondering if she posted here. It seems like I saw her posting around here recently.
     
  10. Satch

    Satch Active Member

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    Greetings to the WCSC Community,

    First time poster and happy to be a part of this service. I am interested in the case of Sam Todd, who disappeared from a New York City New Years Eve Party on the morning of January 1st, 1984 and has never been seen since.

    From what I remember, Sam had been attending several New Years Eve parties that night with his brother. Leaving his jacket at the party and his identification, Sam went for a walk estimated sometime between 2-3:30 am that night and never returned. His brother saw him leave the party, turn a corner, and than went back inside. When Sam did not come back about 10 minutes later, they formed a search group that lasted for several days, looking everywhere but to no avail.

    Is it true that there were two witnesses who claimed to have seen Sam a few days later? One was that he was washing cars and the other was that he was seen in a soup kitchen.

    Most of the speculation seems to be that because Sam was intoxicated that night that he may have been hit on the head from a mugging or other related injury and because of this could be suffering from amnesia.

    I saw Sam's case on an episode of "America Undercover" on HBO in August of 1985 and was wondering about any updates in his case.

    Thanks in advance for any information.

    Regards,

    Satch
     
  11. RubyRed

    RubyRed "Keep on Truckin"

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    Great article on Sam's disapperence from May, 1985

    ""The Man with a Thousand Faces"
    New York City Police

    Yale Divinity student Sam Todd left a party in the early morning of New Year's Day, 1984 ---and has never been seen or heard from since. Perhaps, suggests the author, who here offers fresh insights into the case, Sam had some very good reasons for disappearing.

    Connecticut Magazine
    May, 1985"

    Complete article here: (long)

    http://yaledisappearance.blogspot.com/

    Satch
     
  13. hot cawfee

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    Hi everyone---just to throw a wrinkle in---By a total stroke of luck I was at the library yesterday and chanced on a book called "The Weeping Buddha" by Heather Dunne Macadam. Her intro author's note reads "I was twenty-three the night Sam Todd disappeared from our New Year's Eve party in Chinatown...Sam Todd left me on the dance floor to get a breath of fresh air and never returned. Ever." The book was published in 2002.
    Total coincidence that led me here. Hopefully Sam or someone who knows of him will come forward.
    FWIW----there is something about NY Eve and NYC when they collide---I understand. Someone could completely disappear into the crowds.
     
  14. madamx

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    Couple of more articles


    https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/2srfg8/what_happened_to_samuel_todd/
    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/29/nyregion/new-york-observed-without-a-trace.html
    https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/tag/samuel-arthur-todd/


    Circumstances: Sam disappeared on New Years Eve after stepping out of a New Year's party for some fresh air. He was last seen walking near Mulberry and Houston Streets in Manhattan, NY. Sam left his wallet and jacket at the party. He had no cash and no identification on him.

    First Name: Samuel Arthur
    Middle Name: Arthur
    Last Name: Todd
    Details
    Age When Last Known Alive: 24
    Race: White
    Ethnicity: Other
    Sex: Male
    Height: 70.0 to
    Weight: 130.0 to
    Location
    City: New York
    State: New York
    County: New York
    Appearance
    Hair: Brown
    Head Hair: light brown
    Eye: Blue
    Scars And Marks: Sam has two small scars on his cheek near his left eye
    Clothing and Accessories
    Clothing: Sam was last seen wearing a dark blue sweatshirt with a circular emblem of Ecolint Geneve stitched across the front and blue jeans
    Footwear: Sam was last seen wearing blue running shoes
    Eyewear: Sam was last seen wearing dark-framed eyeglasses
    ttp://www.missingin.org/reg2980/samuel_arthur_todd.htm
     
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    what are the chances he ran away to florida and had a sex change? and was that Doe that was found in florida.. height seems the same and implants were probably done in nyc. it did mention somewhere he was Dancing with a girl and left her..it was the 1980s there was no such thing as people transitioning like how it is now. Just a thought I had because of the photos that I was looking at of him.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2752umfl.html 2752UMFL_LARGE[1].jpg
     

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