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  1. HMSHood

    HMSHood Admiral-Class Battlecruiser

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    He would be tried in America probably in federal court. Likely ended up in the ADX Florence Supermax.
     
  2. HMSHood

    HMSHood Admiral-Class Battlecruiser

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    NYC terror suspect Saipov a 'mother's boy' who wanted to come home
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ipov-mothers-boy-who-wanted-to-come-home.html

    Of interest.

    In at least one regard, Mr. Saipov appears to share a trait with some other terrorist suspects who struck on U.S. soil: He failed to achieve personal and career ambitions in the U.S. and became embittered, say those who know him.

    Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older of the two brothers who planted bombs at the Boston Marathon in 2013, had hoped to compete as a professional boxer before falling into extremism.

    The New York-born Omar Mateen, son of Afghan immigrants, killed 49 people in the Pulse nightclub in 2016 and had hopped from job to job before radicalizing online, authorities said.

    Ahmad Khan Rahimi, who was convicted last month in the 2016 bombing in Manhattan’s Chelsea neighborhood, was also part of the “bridge generation,” a term used by Muslim leaders for young people struggling with their identities to be both Muslim and American.


    These terrorists feel like failures in life, which fuel their never ending resentment.

    I would not be surprised if Sayfullo Saipov is an injustice collector, a vicarious injustice collector.
     
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  3. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    Timothy McVeigh( Christian Identity and Turner Diaries ) Jim Jones ( Peoples Temple Diisciples of Christ).yes, Jones was not on US soil, but his adherents were US citizens.
     
  4. BetteDavisEyes

    BetteDavisEyes All the boys think she's a spy...

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    Sister of NYC Truck Attack Suspect Says Family Shocked, Never Noticed Extremism
    by Vladimir Banic and Phil Helsel

    The sister of an Uzbek man accused in the New York City truck attack that authorities say was inspired by Islamic State videos says the family is shocked and he never expressed extremist views to them.

    Suspected attacker Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov "never had any extreme ideas before," his sister, Umida Saipova, who lives in Tashkent in Uzbekistan, said in a text message to NBC News.

    "What happened in the USA was a shocking event for us and a shocking experience for our family," she said. "Certainly, we want to go to USA to help our brother and for a legal case to be justified if possible." ..

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/n...ect-says-family-shocked-never-noticed-n817611
     
  5. Wyle_E_Coyote

    Wyle_E_Coyote Well-Known Member

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  6. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    No, that's not how it works.
     
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    JerseyGirl Moderator Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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  8. Cryptic

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    I agree about the first being a rare Christian terrorist. Rudolph, however, I am not so sure.

    Rudolph was not actively religious and though he may have sympathized with Conservative Christians, he did not seem to identity as one. Most, if not all of his justifications were secular: “ I hate the government, liberals (abortion is a liberal policy?) and the NWO”. I would move him into the “maybe” category.

    In short, Rudolph seems more like McVeigh. At the time of his attack, McVeigh was an avowed atheist who was sympathetic to the Branch Davidians only for political purposes. McVeigh did, however, revert back to his birth church (Catholic) a few days before his execution and requested a presence of a Priest before the execution and a Catholic burial.
     
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  9. YESorNO

    YESorNO The Queen (aka "mrsmuir") SWBB

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    VIDEO: ROBERT SPENCER ON THE NEW YORK TRUCK JIHADI

    "Robert Spencer recently spoke at the Young America’s Foundation’s Reagan Ranch June Conference on New York City truck jihadi Sayfullo Saipov and the ongoing willful ignorance regarding the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat."

    Video: Robert Spencer on the New York Truck Jihadi
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  10. YESorNO

    YESorNO The Queen (aka "mrsmuir") SWBB

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    NYC bike path terrorist who killed eight defends ISIS and invokes ‘Allah’ at court hearing

    "The man who drove a truck onto a crowded New York City sidewalk killing eight people and injuring a dozen more defended ISIS and invoked “Allah” during a court hearing over the weekend.

    A U.S. District Judge has set his trial date for Oct. 7, nearly two years after the deadly attack, CBS News reported....

    In his most recent court appearance, Saipov said that the prosecutors’ decisions during his trial were unimportant to him and that he cared only about “Allah” and the holy war being waged by ISIS....

    Saipov went on for about 10 minutes using a translator, during which time Assistant U.S. Attorney Andrew Beaty called on the judge to stop Saipov’s “terrorist propaganda” comments.

    The judge allowed Saipov to finish and declared that the man likely would not be allowed to speak out in court again....

    Saipov said during an earlier court appearance that he may plead guilty to all counts and seek a life sentence instead of the death penalty."

    NYC bike path terrorist who killed eight defends ISIS and invokes 'Allah' at court hearing
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  11. Gardenista

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    LOL, what a moron.
     
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    New York terror attack suspect now facing total of 28 federal charges (with clip)

    June 22, 2018

    "(CNN)The suspect in New York's deadliest terror attack since 9/11 was arraigned Friday on new charges -- six counts of attempted murder -- in addition to 22 charges filed earlier from the 2017 incident that left eight people dead and injured a dozen others....

    Saipov was originally indicted on eight counts of murder in aid of racketeering, 12 counts of attempted murder in aid of racketeering, one count of providing and attempting to provide material support to ISIS and one count of violence and destruction of a motor vehicle. The new charges of attempted murder -- filed in an indictment this week -- bring the total number of federal charges against him to 28...."

    New York terror attack suspect charged with 6 additional counts of attempted murder - CNN
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    Bus matron hurt in NYC terror attack sues over injuries

    August 9, 2018

    "The bus matron whose vehicle was hit by a rental truck allegedly driven by West Side terrorist Sayfullo Saipov in last Halloween’s bike-path attack is suing the city for $5 million over her extensive injuries.

    Marierose Charles was riding on the special-needs school bus with two students and the driver when Saipov allegedly barreled into them at West and Chambers streets on Oct. 31, 2017....

    Charles underwent surgery for fractured right ribs, lumbar spine injuries, a collapsed lung and damage to her right shoulder, her attorney Lawrence Krasin told The Post.

    Her new Manhattan Supreme Court suit faults the city for failing to install barricades that would have prevented vehicles from entering the bike lane.

    It wasn’t until the day after the deadly Halloween horror that city transportation workers finally installed concrete barriers at over four dozen intersections along the highway...."

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/09/bus-matron-hurt-in-nyc-terror-attack-sues-over-injuries/
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    Edelman Krasin & Jaye File Suit in West Side Highway Bike Path Attack

    AUGUST 31, 2018

    "The Long Island law firm of Edelman, Krasin and Jaye filed a lawsuit against the city of New York in the Manhattan Supreme Court. The plaintiff was a victim of the 2017 West Side terrorist attack in NYC and suffered serious injuries after a truck allegedly entered the busy bike path along the Hudson River...."

    Edelman Krasin & Jaye File Suit in West Side Highway Bike Path Attack
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  14. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    Shocked they are?

    They are always shocked.

    I’m not shocked that their shocked.

    As always.
     
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    Feds seek death penalty for NY bike path rampage suspect

    SEPTEMBER 28, 2018

    "(CNN) — Federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty against the suspect in New York’s deadliest terror incident since 9/11, an attack that left eight people dead when a box truck went down a bicycle path....

    In a court filing Friday, prosecutors said Saipov, 30, committed the crimes “in an especially heinous, cruel and depraved manner.” They also cited his alleged support of the Islamic State and lack of remorse.

    The suspect’s attorneys said in a statement that they were disappointed.

    “We think the decision to seek the death penalty rather than accepting a guilty plea to life in prison with no possibility of release will only prolong the trauma of these events for everyone involved.”..."

    Feds seek death penalty for NY bike path rampage suspect
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    October Terror Threat Snapshot: Homegrown Terror Cases in 30 States

    October 16, 2018

    "Story highlights: A look at October’s Terror Threat Snapshot from the House Committee on Homeland Security. The committee’s chairman, U.S. Representative Michael McCaul, provides some exclusive insights to In Homeland Security about vigilance during the upcoming holiday season and the fight against global terrorism...

    The snapshot report’s key points include federal prosecutors announcing that they will seek the death penalty for Sayfullo Saipov who is accused of plowing down people with his vehicle on a New York City bike path in October 2017. That attack killed eight people and injured 11 others and was the deadliest terror attack on U.S. soil since Sept. 11, 2001. Saipov’s trial is scheduled to begin a year from now...."

    Latest Terror Threat Snapshot: Homegrown Terror Cases in 30 States

    These are the victims of the New York terror attack on October 31, 2017




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  18. Cryptic

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    In some cases, the families could well be telling the truth.

    Not all terrorists have a long history of religious extremism. Likewise, not all follow the pattern of: looking for a new identity, a religious conversion, then a quick plunge into say, "The Jihad Journey".

    Rather, an Israeli study revealed that a good number are simply not religious people. Instead, they are approached by extremists and then agree to commit religious terrorism / or make an independent attack for a variety of reasons: anger at the world, depression, romantic frustration, a desire for attention etc.

    Take for example, the Las Vegas rampage shooter. People described him as a life long self absorbed low level jerk with a shallow but not exploitive personality. He had no history of violence, threats, extremism etc. We all know people like this, yet SP went on a rampage for an inexplicable reason.

    Or the man who swore allegiance to ISIS and then attacked Club Pulse: Non practicing Moslem, drank alcohol, patronized gay bars, wife did not wear hijab, let alone face veils. Like SP from Las Vegas, he was described by some as a life long low level jerk w/o SP's intelligence or financial success. Even still, the attack was not predicted by anybody.

    Of course, some terrorists do follow the predictable pattern.
     

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