NY NY - Shannan Gilbert, 24, Oak Beach, 1 May 2010

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  1. Shutterfly

    Shutterfly New Member

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    picture from this link and article included http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/missing-woman-s-kin-cop-response-not-quick-1.2546076

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    The sobbing woman was begging 911 dispatchers to rescue her, yelling into the phone from the seaside community of Oak Beach. She banged on the door of resident Gustav Coletti, who let her in and then called 911 himself.

    "She said, 'Help me! Help me!' " Coletti, 75, recalled Wednesday. He said he told the 911 dispatcher: "I don't know what it's all about but she's screaming for help."

    When Suffolk police arrived at the scene, the woman, Shannan Gilbert, 24, was gone. Gilbert, a Jersey City prostitute who came to Oak Beach to meet a client, has not been seen since that May 1 morning, police and her family members have said. Her disappearance prompted a missing-person probe by her frantic family, who now worry that she may be one of the four skeletal remains recently found in thick brush off Ocean Parkway near Oak Beach.
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    I looked for a pre-existing thread for Shannan for a solid hour. If I missed it then I'm an idiot so please forgive me.

    Shannan was last seen at The Fairway, in Oak Beach NY on May 1st 2010. Escorted by a driver, she went to a party hosted by a resident of the exclusive subdivision from which she vanished. Shannan was a prostitute but we do not know for a fact that this is what she went to The Fairway for. All we know is that she went and that a man invited her. LE hasn't confirmed this. Reportedly this meeting was a "date" and she was invited to this party, by the host JB, via Craigslist. At some point, I believe around 4:51am, something appears to have gone wrong. Shannan called 911 and told the dispatcher, in a 23 minute call, that "he was trying to kill her" and she repeated "help me" several times. It's believed that it can be heard on the audio taped call, something that sounds like Shannan being grabbed and pulled into a truck. She is heard knocking on several doors until finally, a neighbor, GC, opens his door to Shannan. Here's what he has to say about that moment. I will post links for more info as I have them. Anyone who can post links PLEASE jump in.

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    above from this location originally http://www.newsday.com/news/search-updates-1.2546948


    JB claims that Shannan did come to his home. He said she began demanding to get paid and was, I guess belligerent? He told her to leave, which she did, on foot. It seems that her driver had dropped her off. At some point it seems that she apparently began randomly beating on doors in the moments following this reported episode, begging for help. Until GC found her at his door.

    I've provided you with a layout of the location in which GC was standing when he was interviewed (above) and other things I found significant in the area. When he indicates the direction from which the SUV came, he doesn't seem to be motioning toward the highway at all but in the other direction, toward the opposite shoreline, through a patch of scrub and a retention pond of sorts AWAY from the highway or Oak Beach Road, which is the only vehicle access leaving the area.

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    Here's GC's house in relation to JB's house.
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    JB's house was searched yesterday and a vehicle from his home, a white SUV, was seized. That video is available at this link

    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/search-expanded-1.2547436

    It seems as though Shannan's family did report her missing many months ago but no one took them seriously. I suppose that's because their baby girl is a known prostitute. Sad...both that no one cared, and that she put herself at such risk.

    I thought that maybe we could look for her anyway, regardless of what she did for a living. I have my doubts as to whether or not she ever made it out of the area. And it's been reported via MSM that Shannan isn't one of the four bodies found just up Ocean Parkway.
     
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  3. SheWhoMustNotBeNamed

    SheWhoMustNotBeNamed Former Member

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    Wow. Thanks for posting, Shutterfly.

    The main things I'm finding online about Shannan right now is that she was NOT among the four bodies found on Long Island. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/police_swarm_bodies_police_expand_0BeUjrqb7bZtIuU7R23YkJ

    Here's a sad article about how missing women thought to be prostitutes just don't get any attention until they might be part of something bigger.

    Cases of missing prostitutes don't capture public attention until a serial killer might be to blame

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...ntil_its_2_missing_hookers.html#ixzz18LtaDJ2J
     
  4. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    Glad to finally see a thread for Shannan!

    Hoping her info is soon entered into a MP database, either local or state LE or NAMPN or Charley Project.

    What she did imo doesn't matter. She is still loved, cared about, missed, deserves to be found and deserves justice.
     
  5. illeKllaH

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    She was on the phone with 911 for 23 minutes?! NO ONE could make it to where she is in 23 minutes?! She had, at minimum, a rough idea of where she was and cell calls to 911 can be triangulated. That's what I find to be disturbing about this scenario. I wish I could say that I was disturbed by LE not taking it seriously, but it's all too common that missing prostitutes get swept under the rug.
     
  6. watchful_eye

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    I'm still a little confused.

    Was the party at JB's home? How did she get to Coletti's home?
     
  7. trigger

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    Not all 911 calls can be triangulated. You can put in Latitude and longitude but for some reason, sometimes it just doesn't generate their location. Being a 911 operator this happens all to frequently. People call hysterical, they are so upset, and they don't know where they are. Its so frustrating and I feel for this 911 operator. That is why I always ask them to give me license plate numbers of cars parked in the general area. It works for me!!

    There are 4 communities in this area, 3 on the bay side and one on the south side. Then there is another community on the northside of the bay which you need to go by boat. Then there is another community after you go south on the Robert Moses Bridge. If she didn't know where she was and said she is in Fire Island well then thats another area.

    I think when that neighbor finally called 911 that is when 911 knew where she was.

    There is patrolling of LE in this area but if they are on another call miles and miles away it will take LE 20 minutes to get there. There was a working house fire 2 years ago and the Fire Depatment did not arrive until 20 minutes later. The people who live there are fighting for more patrol and reuesting to get a Fire House there. They are vulnerable.
     
  8. Shutterfly

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    The alleged party was at JB's residence, yes. Shannan is said to have gotten from JB's to GC's house on foot, knocking on doors as she went. I've heard it said that Newsday has posted a map of what is believed to have been her last 'known' steps in the area. I'm still looking for that now. The version I read on the UID thread for the 4 bodies found states that GC last saw Shannan, on foot, headed south on Galley East St.
     
  9. Reannan

    Reannan Seek Brotherhood, Cherish Solitude

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    Shannan had hired her own driver when she started advertising her services on Craigslist. Do we know anything about this driver? Why wouldn't she have called him to come get her??

    "She worked for at least two escort services before deciding this year to become independent, advertising her services on Craigslist and hiring her own driver, friends and family said. "

    http://www.newsday.com/news/search-for-missing-woman-leads-to-4-bodies-1.2543025
     
  10. Shutterfly

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    http://www.longislandpress.com/2010/12/16/cops-nj-woman-not-among-ocean-parkway-bodies/

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    The man who drove Gilbert to Oak Beach on the day she disappeared told the Jersey City Journal she was “delirious” and “irrational” when she called 911 from the client’s house.

    He said Gilbert’s client phoned him three hours later and said Gilbert was refusing to leave.

    The man said he found Gilbert on the phone telling a 911 operator that a man was after her.

    The driver told the newspaper he tried to get Gilbert leave but she said, “You guys are trying to kill me.”

    He said Gilbert eventually ran from the house.

    Brewer’s neighbor, Gustav Coletti, said he last saw Gilbert when she ran to his house shortly before 5 a.m. the day she vanished
     
  11. Shutterfly

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    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/missing-woman-s-kin-cop-response-not-quick-1.2546076

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    Suffolk police described the 911 call Gilbert made, though they did not release it. Talking to a Suffolk dispatcher, Gilbert "intimates that she's being threatened," McCarthy said. Voices in the background tell her to calm down, he said.

    "She's drifting in and out, intoxicated, I would say," McCarthy said.

    Gilbert's sister, Sherre, said Gilbert had a history of mental illness and drug abuse that often manifested itself as irrational behavior.

    Early in the call, Gilbert was transferred to a dispatcher for New York State Police, McCarthy said. State Police spokesman Frank Bandiero did not return multiple phone messages Wednesday.

    With a phone in hand, Gilbert ran from the house while talking to the dispatcher. Coletti said he opened his front door and she ran inside. He then called 911 and Gilbert ran off, McCarthy said.

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    A couple of weeks later, her sisters, Sarra and Sherre Gilbert, traveled from upstate Ellenville to Oak Beach. They spoke to neighbors, walked along the roads, and spoke with Brewer. Just before leaving, Sarra said she reached down on the ground and found an earring that had fallen from her sister's ear
     
  12. impatientredhead

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    Hmmm, the fact that the client/date and the driver are talking to the police makes me wonder if this is a drug/ptsd/flashback type of a thing? True unbridled panic, her lifestyle may have certainly put her in a position where this exact thing did happen, drugs to be able to continue this line of work. Have they had the search dogs out coming the brush yet?
     
  13. Lavanda Dolce

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    Shannan Gilbert 24 MISSING - Long Island NY - May 01 2010
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    (Please don't use the "old" one on my FB page as I did not realize until today that we had her name spelled Shannon when it is Shannan. Her sister never told me of the error and I found it today. Here is the new corrected banner. Thanks!)
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  14. Lavanda Dolce

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    Dear all please click on the link and then on the top right click on the Recommend button. It has a little Facebook icon. If we can get 800 views they may consider Shannan's case for the Nancy Grace Missing 50 in 50 days. Thank you. Click here:
    http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-555126
     
  15. revampz

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    I noticed in the link above that while searching for Shannan, they found four bodies from a serial killer who killed prostitutes advertising on craiglist.....I dont know anything about this, so sorry to sound naive, but did they catch this guy????? and I cant beleive the police are not looking more into shannans disappearance if a serial killer is on the loose....
     
  16. Lavanda Dolce

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    The serial killer is still on the loose. We worked with the family of one of the victims, Megan Waterman, for the six months she was missing. There is a thread on here for the Long Island serial killer at this link:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122551&highlight=long+island+serial+killer
     
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    AmandaReckonwith Defective Detective

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    ok ...so this girl went missing may 2010 and the other bodies were found in jan 11...so this means she did not know about any serial killer and wasnt hysterical because of media about a serial killer killing prostitutes......

    do they think she is a victim of the same serial killer????

    Isnt the probability pretty high? prostitute on craiglist.

    Is this all in the same area???

    You would think the police would be right onto her disappearance if they are after this serial killer.........

    I would be right onto JB and any guests he had there that night.

    I am quite alarmed at this.
     
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    Any update on this? I also believe that it does not matter what Shannan did with her life she is still a missing person. Especially under the weird events of that night and Craigslist being involved!
     
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    Search to resume in Gilgo Beach bodies investigation

    Investigators on Long Island will resume the search for possible victims of a serial killer on Monday.

    Suffolk County police are shutting down several miles of the Ocean Parkway from the Nassau County line eastward after a fifth set of human remains were found on March 29 along the highway that leads to Jones Beach last week.

    More: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/long_island&id=8050530
     

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