GUILTY NY - Stephen McKay, 3, beaten to death, Crown Point, 2 Aug 2005

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  1. mysteriew

    mysteriew A diamond in process

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    A death certificate presented in town court on Monday ruled that 3-year-old Stephen McKay was murdered.

    A preliminary autopsy report released with it said the boy died of blunt trauma to the extremities, torso, closed head injuries, a lacerated pancreas and had sustained a fracture of the left forearm, abrasions, contusions and swelling of the brain causing post cardiopulmonary arrest.

    The toddler, who lived on Route 9N in Crown Point with his mother, Janina McDonald, 23, and her live-in boyfriend, Greggary L. Varmette, 21, died on Thursday, Aug. 4 at 7:08 a.m. at Fletcher Allen Health Center in Burlington.

    The child was brought by ambulance to Moses Ludington Hospital in Ticonderoga, according to police records, after McDonald returned home after work at 11 p.m. the night before and found her son unresponsive.

    He had been under Varmette's care during the day.
    http://www.pressrepublican.com/cgi-bin/newspro/fullnews.cgi?newsid1123551557,52630,
     
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  3. Melissa Marshall

    Melissa Marshall New Member

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    That poor little baby. He is in heaven safe and sound playing with my cousing Kaylee.
     
  4. SewingDeb

    SewingDeb "Sorry, I'm not qualified to land the plane."

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    How horrible. The stories that man told to try to explain the injuries to that poor child were pathetic. I hope he doesn't get less time because of his military injuries.
     
  5. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    Yet another baby murdered by "mommy's boyfriend." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
     
  6. Melissa Marshall

    Melissa Marshall New Member

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    It is very unnescesary to put "mommy's boyfriend". I guess a single mom is suppose to not date until their child is 18 and out of the home. Do you actually think that if these women had ANY idea at all that their child were in danger with a murderer they would date them???
     
  7. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    I disagree. Weren't these guys "mommy's boyfriend"? Was the phrase incorrect?

    I don't think those women had much idea about these guys at all because they DIDN'T TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY TO GET TO KNOW THEM.
     
  8. Tom'sGirl

    Tom'sGirl Former Member

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    For crying out loud Jeana, look how many couples that are married commit the same type of crime!

    It's unfair to say "they didn't take the time necessary to get to know them"...........how long did you get to know your boyfriends when you were young, or your husband?
     
  9. Melissa Marshall

    Melissa Marshall New Member

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    Yet again I state "Should they wait until their child is 18 and moved out of the house before they could ever date again". You have no idea how much they know about a person. Oh because they didn't know they were a psychotic piece of **** then they didn't get to know them. Yeah the phrase is incorrect. That to me means you are putting blame on the mothers. Damn the men for not telling the mom's up front that they were murderers. Their fault huh.
     
  10. Beyond Belief

    Beyond Belief New Member

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    I hope this guy gets the death penalty.
     
  11. nanandjim

    nanandjim Former Member

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    When you have a child, you have to put the child's interests first, not yours. If that means waiting until the child is 18 and out of the house to date, then so be it.

    IMO, this wasn't an Ozzie and Harriett lifestyle gone bad. I bet there were red flags all over the place long before this innocent child was beaten to death.
     
  12. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Active Member

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    Honestly, yes they should. When you bring children into this world they become your #1 priority. If they must date fine, but don't bring them home to your bed & leave him around your children ALONE.
     
  13. csds703

    csds703 Former Member

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    That is quite an extreme opinion. I don't advocate leaving your child with every Tom Dick and Harry, but it's ridiculous to expect a young woman to have no companionship for 18 years.
     
  14. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Active Member

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    Perhaps it is extreme. Why can't a young woman be responsible? Why before conceiving a child didn't she consider her support system? Why can't she date? No one said she couldn't have companionship. Why must she live with Tom, Dick or Harry? What can't she ask Tom to submit to a criminal background check complete with fingerprints?
     
  15. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    They didn't take the time.

    As for me, while its none of your business, I'll answer your question. When I was a single parent, I knew the man that would become my second husband for one year before I even started dating him. I dated him for one year before he ever met my son and then married him two years after that. My son was nearly 10 years old at the time as well - old enough to be able to say if something had been happening.
     
  16. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying they should get to know the man BEFORE THEY EVER BRING HIM AROUND THEIR CHILD.

    If parents don't put their children in situations where they can be hurt, they won't be hurt. I'm not saying everything is preventable, but having your child murdered in his or her own home because they allow men they've only known for a few months live in or watch their children, then that situation is preventable - 100% preventable.
     
  17. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    I agree. But her child(ren) don't need to be involved and they certainly don't need to be living with them and/or babysitting. :)
     
  18. Melissa Marshall

    Melissa Marshall New Member

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    Sorry but you could date a man for months or years and still not know everything about them. There is NEVER a time that the man is going to tell you he likes to rape and murder a child so that is not preventable. My cousin knew her boyfriend for 2 months and he had NO prior child molestation or rape charges against him. I do not agree with her having Kaylee around him but that is her life and not mine to tell her what to do. And no one elses to judge her for doing that. She has suffered enough by losing her child and being called a bad mother is just WRONG!! This man did not live with her or watch Kaylee! There was no way for her to know that this monster would murder her baby.
     
  19. csds703

    csds703 Former Member

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    I actually have very conservative views on dating and marriage. What I hesitate to do is ASSUME that someone is being irresponsible when something bad happens. Just look at Laci. Sometimes things aren't what they seem and there are no warning signs unless you're playing monday morning quarterback.
     
  20. csds703

    csds703 Former Member

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    I agree with that, but I was also the mother who never went out unless my mom or sister could babysit. I have issues LOL.
     
  21. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    Of course no one else knows what's in someone's heart or their head. However, plain old common sense tells us that you're going to know someone a heck of a lot better in a few years than you would in a few months. As for your sister's case - there is a thread for that. I didn't mention her or that case on this thread. I'm speaking in general terms, not about a specific case.
     

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