NZ - Two Children's Remains Found in Suitcases Bought at Auction - Auckland *Mother Arrested*

[TootsieFootsie]

New Zealand ‘suitcase’ murders: suspect to be extradited from South Korea within 30 days

 

[kiwi50]

Back in NZ

Suitcase murder case: Suspect in police custody, due in court tomorrow

Three NZ police officers travelled to South Korea to transport her back to Auckland.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Snoop Sister]

Back in NZ

Suitcase murder case: Suspect in police custody, due in court tomorrow

Three NZ police officers travelled to South Korea to transport her back to Auckland.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Good!

 

[iamshadow21]

Another article, no new information that I can tell.

Woman accused of murdering children found in suitcases arrives back in New Zealand to face charges

I don't know why the names are suppressed. It could be standard, but I really don't know. It could be to protect the privacy of extended family.

 

[Melt71]

I don't know why the names are suppressed. It could be standard, but I really don't know. It could be to protect the privacy of extended family.

From the NZ Community Law Manual online:

If you’re charged in the criminal courts, you may be able to get the judge to give you name suppression in some cases. The judge can order this if they’re satisfied that publishing your name would be likely to have one of the following effects:

• cause “extreme hardship” to you, your family or others connected to you
• put suspicion on someone else so that they’re caused “undue hardship”
• cause undue hardship to a victim
• create a real risk of you not getting a fair trial (for example, if your name is published it might influence potential jurors)
• put someone in danger
• lead to someone else who has name suppression being identified
• interfere with the operation of the law (prejudice the maintenance of the law) or national security or defence.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Suitcase murder suspect extradited from S.Korea to New Zealand

A 42-year-old woman has been extradited from South Korea to New Zealand, where she will appear in court Wednesday charged with murdering two children whose remains were found in suitcases sold at auction.

www.gmanetwork.com

Images in Korean media at the time of her arrest showed the woman, who South Korean police have identified only by her surname Lee, being led out of an Ulsan police station by plainclothes investigators, covering her head with a large brown coat.

 

[kiwi50]

Suitcase murder accused granted name suppression at appearance in Auckland court

The woman arrested after the remains of two children were found in suitcases still can't be named – but it can be revealed she is the children's mum.

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[SouthAussie]

"The woman will next appear in the High Court in Auckland on December 14."

Woman charged with NZ suitcase murders is slain children's mother

www.9news.com.au

 

[TootsieFootsie]

New Zealand ‘suitcase murders’: suspect is mother of child victims, court hears

Appearing at Manukau district court, Auckland, the 42-year-old stood quietly in the dock, wearing a light beige hooded jacket, before being remanded into custody without entering a plea.

She had arrived in New Zealand on Tuesday after being extradited by South Korean authorities, who said they had handed over “significant pieces of evidence” along with the suspect.

The woman’s identity will remain secret, at least until her next court appearance, which is scheduled for 14 December. She and the children are both covered by strict interim suppression orders preventing the publication of their names and some identifying details.

In court on Wednesday, she requested, via an interpreter, to speak to the judge but her lawyer intervened, saying: “Thank you, Your Honour. I think it would be best if perhaps she didn’t.” Judge Gus Andrēe Wiltens responded: “I agree.”

 

[iamshadow21]

Mother pleads not guilty to murdering children who were found in suitcases in New Zealand

Justice Sally Fitzgerald set a trial date for April 2024 with four weeks set aside for the hearing.

• The accused did not appear but her defence lawyer entered two not-guilty pleas on her behalf
• Court suppression orders bar the media from naming the woman or her deceased children

 

[Dotta]

Mother pleads not guilty to murdering children who were found in suitcases in New Zealand

Justice Sally Fitzgerald set a trial date for April 2024 with four weeks set aside for the hearing.

• The accused did not appear but her defence lawyer entered two not-guilty pleas on her behalf
• Court suppression orders bar the media from naming the woman or her deceased children

April 2024?
It is nearly 1,5 year from now.
Will she be imprisoned or on bail?

 

[SouthAussie]

April 2024?
It is nearly 1,5 year from now.
Will she be imprisoned or on bail?

I think she will remain imprisoned for now. There is no mention of an application for bail yet, and seeing that she left and went to South Korea after the children were killed she might be refused bail if/when she applies for it.

This article says that there will be a hearing in February. This could be to make sure the matter is properly progressing toward the trial date ... that the police have turned over their brief of evidence to the defence, and any other matters that need pre-trial discussion.

Woman accused of suitcase murders pleads not guilty

The woman charged after two children's bodies were found in suitcases will go to trial in 2024.

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[JerseyGirl]

Her trial is expected to begin in April 2024.

Mother pleads not guilty to alleged suitcase murders in New Zealand | CNN

The mother of two children whose bodies were found in suitcases in New Zealand earlier this year has pleaded not guilty to their alleged murders, her lawyer told CNN on Wednesday.

www.cnn.com

 

[Kemug]

Those poor children, how on earth (and why) did it happen?

 

[evilwise]

Those poor children, how on earth (and why) did it happen?

The same reasons it always happens.

I get in trouble here pretty regularly for "Victim Blaming" because my interest in crime is to understand the reasons it happens so as to better protect those I love. Nearly always, people could have avoided becoming victims by making wiser choices. Some are much more avoidable than others, and a lot of them are the result of the victims deciding to take certain risks - and we all must take some risks sometimes to succeed in life.

HOWEVER - infanticide, even negligent infanticide is never ever ever the victims' fault in the slightest. I think that's why these kind of cases always have the most truly distraught Sleuths in them. To think about little children who know only that they need someone, their mommy to keep them safe and for that mother to kill them is contrary to one of the most basic natural instincts that the vast majority of us have. These people are truly monsters and I believe there is a special place in hell for them.