Found Alive OH - A. C., 14, Barberton, 4 Dec 2017

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  1. Lilibet

    Lilibet Well-Known Member

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    You didn’t drop the ball so don’t blame yourself. :therethere: I’m sure there are others who saw the post and didn’t think to call it in. And I wouldn’t be surprised if some branch of LE involved in this case had already seen it. We all learn from experience. “See something. Say something” is a great motto.
     


  2. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    Don’t beat yourself up, cujenn. What’s important is that you posted and someone picked up on the possibility LE should be informed and followed through with that — you got the ball rolling!
     
  3. Jethro4WS

    Jethro4WS Well-Known Member

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    Mom has been going through hoops to hide something. I don't like where my thinking goes with that but there has to be something else afoot here i.e. I think Mom is even lying about why she said she was lying in the first place (if that makes any sense).
     
  4. Moreack

    Moreack Well-Known Member

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    Can someone explain to me why this is a runaway case and not a kidnpping? And not an amber alert?

    Jmo.
     
  5. GrilledCheezy

    GrilledCheezy Creepin' on the interwebs

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    THIS x 100
     
  6. cujenn81

    cujenn81 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for saying that. I truly felt awful about it and like a big ole dummy, as well.
     
  7. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Wow, this guy is delusional. I don't want to say it, but the thought of a suicide pact crosses my mind. : (((
     
  8. GrilledCheezy

    GrilledCheezy Creepin' on the interwebs

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    Tricia said it was okay to sleuth mom, so... she and the other adult in the household have had eviction proceedings brought up on them more than a few times in the past two years. Money motivation?
     
  9. Lilibet

    Lilibet Well-Known Member

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    BBM

    Is there a fundraising page set up yet? “Help Us Find A. because LE Is doing nothing” or something like that.
     
  10. cujenn81

    cujenn81 Well-Known Member

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    I've wondered the same thing.
    According to https://www.amberalert.gov/faqs.htm#faq6:

    The Department's Guidance on Criteria for Issuing AMBER Alerts is as follows:

    There is reasonable belief by law enforcement that an abduction has occurred.

    The law enforcement agency believes that the child is in imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death.

    There is enough descriptive information about the victim and the abduction for law enforcement to issue an AMBER Alert to assist in the recovery of the child.

    The abduction is of a child aged 17 years or younger.

    The child’s name and other critical data elements, including the Child Abduction flag, have been entered into the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) system.

    Are AMBER Alerts issued for all missing children?

    AMBER Alerts are issued for abducted children that meet the AMBER Alert criteria. AMBER Alert is only one tool that law enforcement can use to find abducted children. AMBER Alerts are used in the most serious cases that meet the AMBER criteria. Overuse of AMBER Alert could result in the public becoming desensitized to Alerts when they are issued.



    The only reason I can possibly think of would be if LE isn't confident about the car they're traveling in or they may not believe she's in IMMINENT danger. I would certainly beg to differ with that opinion, if so... but LE might be operating off the notion that he doesn't pose a threat to AC's life at this point, but that will likely change at the point in time when they do catch up with him and he feels like he's backed into a corner. He's like a wild animal on the loose right now (literally and figuratively) and I can only assume that his behavior will quickly turn aggressive, cagey, and unpredictable when they hunt him down.

    ETA: If they had any indication he is in possession of a weapon, that would definitely tip the scales and an AA would have been issued. I haven't heard a thing about if he may or may not be carrying a gun, but his FB comment was brazen enough to suggest that he has something in his possession that could harm somebody. He's a seasoned criminal and probably knows how to get his hands on one if he feels like he needs to.


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  11. perfectingpink

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  12. cujenn81

    cujenn81 Well-Known Member

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    I'm really surprised and upset about the lack of coverage on this case. The few articles I can find about it haven't been updated since yesterday but most haven't been updated in several days, and nearly all of them are local outlets. What's the deal? Is the cousin/pregnancy taboo aspect the reason for the media’s disinterest?
     
  13. soanyway

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    Bringing forward the earlier mention of a gun, by mom. Also, seems to be some conflicting information as to the pregnancy, IIRC it was previously reported she was to be about 6 weeks pregnant when she disappeared. BBM

    UPDATE 12/16/17 – HC (snip), the mother of AC (snip) has been arrested for making false alarms. The Akron Police Dept. states she lied to them about the circumstances of her A.’ disappearance, and it didn’t happen the way she said it did. In actuality, AC (snip) left with Louis from Strongville. A C. family member told News 5, AC (snip) disappeared with Jakab in late September, too. The cousins were not found until Thanksgiving, and when AC (snip) came home, she was about two months pregnant, her family said.

    http://www.missingpersonsofamerica....o-family-believes-is-the-father-of-her-child/


     
  14. cujenn81

    cujenn81 Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think so. AFAIK, they‘re still treating this as an abduction. It is perplexing when you think about Tad Cummings and how quickly an Amber Alert was issued in that case. Despite the fact that the underaged victim met up with him and left intentionally, LE was smart enough to deduce that he‘d been grooming her (much like LJ has AC, I’m sure). LE had confirmation from his wife that TC was in possession of several firearms, though. That’s an important distinction, I guess. AC and TC’s victim actually have quite a few things in common - she had just started going to public school after being homeschooled, there was a lot of family drama going on at home, and she also sought comfort and solace thru activities at church until she seemingly started to rebel.


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  15. doyoulovemepfg

    doyoulovemepfg Doomscrolling Eternal

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    It looks from some of the early missing posters that they were treating this as an endangered runaway case.
     
  16. cujenn81

    cujenn81 Well-Known Member

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    Really? WOW, that's disheartening!


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  17. Lilibet

    Lilibet Well-Known Member

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    Do you have a link calling her an “endangered runaway”? I’m just seeing “endangered child” but it doesn’t look official. So far it seems LE is just saying she is “missing” and believed to be with LJ, a fugitive, and may be in danger. They can’t say she was “abducted” or “kidnapped” because it appears she went willingly, based on both of her mom’s lies. Technically, she is a runaway, but I just don’t see LE using that term.

    http://nbc4i.com/2017/12/11/police-still-searching-for-missing-pregnant-14-year-old-ohio-girl/
     
  18. mpnola

    mpnola Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, maybe I wasn't clear enough about that. I was responding to the post that stated that most kids who are homeschooled have issues in the family. As I stated, I have a Masters Degree. I was in a school building for a whole lot of years and I liked school. I value education. I value schooling. In every form. My point was that the place a child is educated cannot determine the quality of their family life. It was not to isinuate that children who go to a brick and mortar school are less adjusted or less loved. Quite the opposite. I was trying to say that everyone has different reasons for doing what they do. And sending them to a building sadly does not get rid of abuse. If it did, our world would be a much brighter place. But abusers abuse. They don't care where a child is educated. But homeschooling does not correlate to problems with a family. Not even close. Does that make more sense?

    Anyway, back to her. It's time she is found.

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  19. Sconnie

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    I was thinking the same thing. When comparing this case with the Tad Cummins case, I have a feeling that LJ is the much more dangerous of the two. I really hope for a peaceful resolution in this case.
     
  20. LisaWL7TR

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    Lilibet,
    Just noticed in the original post here -
    msm reports that she is listed as an endangered runaway.
     

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