OH OH - Amber Evans, 28, Columbus, missing after domestic dispute, 28 Jan 2019

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  1. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Well-Known Member

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    Amber Evans: Activism through criminal justice reform

    Today, Evans works directly with low-income communities and people of color through the Peoples Justice Project (PJP), which focuses on mass incarceration and criminal justice reform.

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    Founded just one year ago, the organization is currently engaged in outreach via “community conversation” events with the formerly incarcerated or those who have an incarcerated or formerly incarcerated family member.

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    As a youth organizer with PJP, Evans works primarily with young people from kindergarten up to age 24 who are either in the criminal justice system or at risk - including children who are suspended or expelled, who are in workforce development programs instead of school and/or who are receiving direct services from agencies.

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  2. Dre

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    Wow. She’s an incredible human, clearly. I hope she is found safe.
    I will reiterate- I think “domestic dispute” could in fact be something way more mild than “domestic violence”
    Wouldn’t the fights any one of us has with a spouse be deemed “domestic dispute” ??
    Also, many extremely strong and outspoken people find themselves in domestic abuse situations- unfortunately it seems to have less to do with the victim but rather the amount of manipulation and charisma of the abuser. She’s clearly an empath, and often people target those who have strong empathy and loyalty.
     
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    The weather is a terrible setback in the search and I'm not surprised they called off the dive. It has rained here locally all day yesterday and today coupled with recent snow melt. Many roads are closed in the area due to flooding. Tonight, the temperature is supposed to drop into the teens and could hamper the search even further.

    I certainly hope this young lady is safe and sound but a lot of time has gone by to consider it likely.
     
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  5. Butterfly_Rises

    Butterfly_Rises The truth will hurt, but the lies will kill you

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    Domestic Dispute doesn't necessarily mean physical it could've just been a fight.
     
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    Butterfly_Rises The truth will hurt, but the lies will kill you

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    Absolutely it is. Domestic Dispute is defined as, "A situation where two or more people living in the same household are involved in a verbal or physical altercation and police intervention is requested."

    Although we know at least by What's been released, LE was not called
     
  7. YaYa_521

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    I think it's important we keep in mind that she worked with many people who, as some would say, live on the fringes of society. For all the good works she is involved with and all the amazing folks with whom she works alongside it only takes one creep, one druggie, one no good lazy criminal, or sexual predator to take advantage of her kindness and vulnerability.

    I pray she's found safe, but I must admit that my hope has already faded away for the most part. :(
     
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    I, too, sense that she’s likely an empath. We take on emotions to the extreme. Unfortunately, other’s bad emotions can overwhelm us to the point of becoming very despondent. That could have resulted after the fight with her bf. That doesn’t lead me down a happy path, though. And I SO want to believe she just went away to clear her head. I know that’s a very slim possibility. Still, I’ve hope.... This is all purely JMO.
     
  9. YaYa_521

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    Mother of Amber Evans holds out hope, as search for missing daughter stretches to one week

    Amber Evans, 28, has been missing for a week. Tonya can only hope and believe that her eldest daughter is still out there somewhere, just "clearing her head."

    "I don't want to think the worst," Fischer said Sunday evening in an interview at her home. "I don't want to think anything besides that my baby's just clearing her head."

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    Due to her role as a director at Juvenile Justice Coalition, and her activist involvement with People's Justice Project, Amber is well-known across Central Ohio. Fischer says hundreds of volunteers have braved the recent weather to search for Amber, and have called and sent flowers and messages of prayer and support.

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    For her daughter, Fischer has only a simple message.

    "Amber, we love you. You know we do," Fischer said tearfully Sunday evening. "We're just trying to make so much sense out of what is going on."

    Columbus Police Missing Persons Unit is investigating the case. You can reach them with any information by calling (614) 645-4624.
     
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    Search for Amber Evans Renews Focus on Mental Health for Community Organizers

    In a small office in a long hallway — what its frequenters call the Movement Hallway — in a big building in Olde Towne East, there’s a community holding space, a unique community of organizers and fighters for liberation.

    One of theirs is missing.

    Amber Evans, a tiny human with a powerful voice, a friend to many, a comrade in struggle to others, is lost. It’s been 10 days since her car was found near the Scioto Mile, and her absence has mobilized her peers to do what they do best: organize.

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    Aramis Malachi-Ture Sundiata, co-founder of PJP and longtime associate of Evans, says you never really come to terms with the kind of work you do as an organizer. You can become numb to it, but it’s not easy. And when it’s one of your own that you’re organizing around, a “comrade,” as Sundiata puts it, it’s different. It’s like another level above friendship, because as comrades you’re organizing people to fight for a “higher moral position,” he says. You cry together, occupy police stations together, strategize together, break bread together. Losing a comrade is a different hurt, but it’s common, he says.

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    Part of what’s going down at the JJC office is a reassessment of how organizers care for themselves and each other. Erin Upchurch, a social worker and Executive Director for Kaleidoscope Youth Center, has used her network to pull together 40 members of the clergy, other spiritual leaders, social workers, counselors and trauma specialists to support people coping with Evans’ disappearance. Along with a hotline people can call, counselors from Netcare and the Columbus CARE Coalition are on-site at the JJC office Monday through Friday this week to help people in person.

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    Beyond the initial support for friends and family of Evans, Upchurch says the community needs to have the bigger conversation about mental health stigma among the organizing community and in communities of color in general.

    “Get outside of the narrative about being strong and redefining what strong looks like, and not glorifying this enduring of pain, enduring of being tired, enduring of everything,” she says. “There’s a lot of conversations about what’s next, because we’re forever changed regardless of what happens, and we need to build something that can hold.”
     
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    Bump for Amber's safe return!
     
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    So I wonder many things....Who last saw her last? How does mom know that there was a domestic dispute? Did she talk to her? Have they pinned her phone?
    I am not saying, what I am saying, however it can be troubling when a significant other is the last one to hear from a missing person. I am just thinking outloud. It appears as if they are scared that she might have committed suicide. She sounds like such a caring, amazing, giving person. However it's those hearts that at times, need the more care.

    all moo
     
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    Amber Evans' mom says daughter's disappearance doesn't add up

    This just doesn't sound promising. If she took off she would have taken her purse.
     
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    That doesn't sound good. Emotional distress, ill on top of it. I am so hoping she just needed a time out, but the car and purse thing is very troubling.
     
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    "With no response to texts after that, Tonya learned from Amber’s boyfriend the two had broken up that night and directed her to the Scioto River downtown as a place Amber may go."
    So the boyfriend was the one that said that is where she went? UGH, not liking this one tiny bit.

    Where are you Amber. Please be safe.
     
  16. Dre

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    Wow, that last article with insight from her mother really upsets me. Honestly, my gut is telling me this is breakup violence trying to be covered up as a suicide. I think he sent her mom that text, and that he left her car purse and phone in the area where she likes to process. This way, he can look like he’s being helpful instead of evasive when he tells people where she could have gone last. I’m heartbroken.
     
  17. YaYa_521

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    He'd be a fool to tell where she is if he had anything to do with her disappearance and there ends up being questions if she's found deceased. But if see ppl do some silly stuff to cover their bootays. This wouldn't surprise me.

    I so want to believe that Amber wouldn't have possibly intentionally harmed herself sadly, I do have to give that a thought as a possibility. Unfortunately we know that the appearance of a person "having it all together", being happy, successful, satisfied, "strong enough", etc. doesn't necessarily mean any of that is true to the individual. As a result we often find out that the person did take his/her own life. Amber I pray that isn't what you considered or are considering. No matter the circumstances it will all work out.

    My strongest suspicions are leaning to Amber having met with foul play either randomly or inthe line of her work/volunteerism. I hope they find her soon.

    MOO
     
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    Besides the obvious "I hope she went to clear her head" theory here are some of my thoughts regarding Amber's disappearance.

    BBM and snipped from linked article. Everything else is MOO and/or speculation.

    Mother of Amber Evans holds out hope, as search for missing daughter stretches to one week

    A quick search of the area turned up nothing -

    Where'd they search? How long? How often? Who? How many searchers? Any dogs or hi-tech equipment used? What type of searches? Did they request or recieve cam footage from businesses, residents, tourists, etc. in and around the areas she was last seen and where her car were found? Where else would she go to clear her head (someone pointed out above that maybe BF put car at Scioto Mile)? Were there any events that night in the area which would have interested Amber?

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    "I've never saw him be anything different than what he presents: that he's in love with us," Fischer said. "We don't know anything further, as far as what goes on behind people's closed doors. But I've never seen anything wrong with my daughter."

    Poor Ms. Fischer. My heart goes out to her. I can relate to what I believe she's trying to do here. I hope her impressions of him and her instincts are on point. Unfortunately, in some of my personal experiences as well as all too often what we see in plenty of cases here, there usually ends up being something that brings us to the point where we start having to question our character judgements of others. I sincerely hope that this young man is who Ms. Fischer believes he is and that he gives his all to helping her find Amber. My prayers are with them both.

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    director at Juvenile Justice Coalition - This truly concerns me yet I have not educated myself on this organization and their work/coalitions/supporters/etc. Given that our country's current state of continuous attacks upon various groups/individuals by others I wonder if Amber could have met with foul play in regards to her work. I'm having a hard time putting this theory out of my head.

    Politics. Classism. Racism. Genderism. Religious intolerance. Patriotism. Alllll the other isms you can identify that seem to have infested our world often bring out the creeps that get their jollies by harming others. Amber's organization is/was involved with movements such as Antifa and BLM. Again I haven't done any detailed searches or readings on JJC but it only takes one crazy, intolerant political zealot, racist, classist, etc.etc.etc. Only one wacko is/was necessary to bring harm to Amber.

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    For her daughter, Fischer has only a simple message.

    "Amber, we love you. You know we do," Fischer said tearfully Sunday evening. "We're just trying to make so much sense out of what is going on."


    Amber, we're all rooting for you.
     
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    Scioto Mile

    :eek: All of the water, the parks, major roads and interstates give me the jeeby jees. She could have voluntarily gone to any of these places or been forced to go there. Seems beautiful and spacious but not when looking for a MP. :confused::(
     
  20. Dre

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    My blood is boiling! I can’t help it, MOO!
    I wasn’t so into the boyfriend perspective until I read the “I’m sorry and I love you” text she sent to her mom an hour and a half after she bought herself cold medicine. That to me was absolutely a red flag, a clear suicide text !!! (given the context, which I felt like the mother would have mentioned if it was regarding a previous conversation) I don’t believe anyone would be depressed enough to end their life and also go to meetings and buy cold medicine. Also, as someone who helps and supports people dealing with some of the most challenging hardships (homelessness, addiction, poverty, physical/sexual abuse etc) I cannot see this strong ass woman kill herself over a break up. She would probably know of dozens of resources that could help in so many types of personal crisis, she would know where to turn for real support in any part of her life. I think that he wrote the text at 8:07 after he hurt her fatally.
    Also, why didn’t it come up before that it was them breaking up and not just a dispute? I think this is huge, the two are in leagues of their own. There are many instances of breakup violence where the perpetrator showed no signs of violence previously, so while I trust the parents judgment of what they saw of him, I don’t trust that he’s not capable of violence when rejected and angry.
    I just truly can’t get past so many of these points, i feel so so sad that something happened to someone so beautiful who had the heart and mind to try to make changes in this brutal world.
     
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