OH OH - Brian Shaffer, 27, Columbus, 1 April 2006 - #3

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  1. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for your input... considering I believe Brian could well have been a victim of foul play this actually makes some sense to me.
     
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  2. Valiant

    Valiant Well-Known Member

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    The problem with the recycling phone theory is this:
    Assume it was Brian's phone that was somehow found and recycled. If his SIM car were still in it, it would then ping when turned on and identify as his phone.
    However, if it were recycled, the SIM could be removed but the phone retains its "serial number" or IMEI code (International Mobile Equipment Identity). I am sure a recycler, whether reconditioning phones for resale or just disassembling for parts, is required to record the IMEI number, if for no reason other than to prevent the "washing" of stolen phones. So of how junkyards must record VINs of cars they disassemble.

    I would hope the IMEI number of Brian's phone has been recorded by police and any activity involving that number would be noticed by them.
     
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  3. velvta

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    Thanks for your reply.

    I don't know anything about their policies and procedures. I was just trying to come up with a plausible reason why his phone would ping in a random Columbus suburb a few months after , and several miles west of, his disappearance. I think I have one. It did ping off a tower and identify it as his phone. So his SIM card had to be in it. This is back in 2006, when phone recycling was pretty new, if I remember right, and they may have had different procedures back then, and didn't hesitate to power up a phone with its existing SIM card, or record IMEI numbers for possible theft tracking. This was a year or so after the company started, so things may have been more "loosey-goosey" for them. Who knows?
     
  4. velvta

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    Thanks for replying.

    He very well could have been a victim of foul play, no doubt. That neighborhood can be sketchy, even today. It has improved a boatload since I was of the age to hang about around there. That building that the UTS was in was not even in existence. It was a bunch of roach infested bars that barely carded anyone for age, and were owned by a capo of the Cleveland mob. I'm not making that up. He's in prison, or maybe died in prison . I digress.

    About him being killed in a mugging or robbery, I do think that could've happened, because they have happened in that part of the city. The argument against it is that rarely does a mugger stay around long enough to hide a body if he killed his victim. They take off as fast as they can.

    I think he ended up in the Olentangy river. Yes, his apartment was in between the UTS and his place in King Ave., but he was drunk, and maybe he got lost. He went too far, and for whatever reason ended up in a body of water, which happens to SO MANY inebriated young men.
     
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  5. velvta

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I' pretty sure it was in Hilliard in 2006, as that's where it was founded in 2005. I remember when my ex coworker talked about it just getting started as a new business back then. I don't know enough about mobile phone technology, especially 2006 flip phone technology, to know how plausible my theory is.
     
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  6. geojeffrey

    geojeffrey Active Member

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    This phone recycling operation in or near Hilliard is the closest thing to a new lead that I can recall....very interesting and even hopeful. I hope we hear more about this.

    Also, I have always felt the the answers to the case lie with Clint. whether he was or wasn't involved, I feel that he knows useful information.

    BUT, something else stands out in my mind..the case of Joey Labute. The circumstances of Joey's disappearance have some striking parallels to Brian's case. Plus, they look very similar in appearance. To me, this suggests the possibility of a serial killer...
     
  7. Stella

    Stella Active Member

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    The only thing I can think of at this point is he left out the door where the band exited. He told Clint that he was going to talk to them. Maybe he helped them break down their equipment and they gave him a lift somewhere. I understand that the door the band used had no camera on it. Getting in the van or truck or whatever they drove would explain why he was never seen on the streets after closing.
     
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  8. Kaie

    Kaie Well-Known Member

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    The band wasn't able to provide any useful information to investigators. They would have been asked soon enough after Brian's disappearance that their memories of the night were still fresh. And giving someone a lift somewhere, isn't anything to withhold from LE. If that had happened, members of the band would have just said so.
     
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  9. itsrak

    itsrak Well-Known Member

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    You might check out the podcast, it is informative:
    ComeBack Podcast Episode 2: Listen to ComeBack - A True Crime Podcast
     
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  10. Stella

    Stella Active Member

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    Detective Andre Edwards is quoted in this article that, "a construction elevator OUTSIDE SURVEILLANCE RANGE could've been taken down to first floor."When Missing Persons Cases Go Cold The band of course, wouldn't admit if they had partied with Brian and something bad happened to him. Not saying it happened that way but am trying to exhaust all possibilities.
     
  11. smr

    smr Well-Known Member

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    Hadn't heard of that case, just looked, interesting! In both cases, the victim had been with a male and a female friend, and the friends left without him because (they claimed that) they couldn't find him.
     
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  12. itsrak

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    Yes, the elevator is out of range of surveillance cam, but when taken down to the first floor, one can go down a hallway and leave the building via the rear exit. That hallway was on surveillance cam that night, and per Sgt. Hurst the band members appeared on tape passing down the hallway and exiting the building. Brian did not appear on that tape.
     
  13. smr

    smr Well-Known Member

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    Here is a speculation that doesn't have enough basis but can't be ruled out in both cases: What if Shaffer/LaBute had a secret gay relationship with the male friend (Clint/Kyle), and the female friend/cousin (Meredith Reed/Kyle's wife) was jealous, and so plotted a bar meeting with sinister plan? Maybe far from the fact, but just saying, given the similarity and the gay factor in one case.
     
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  14. drama_farmer

    drama_farmer "It's never just a mannequin"

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    Here's a scenario that might work with two theories about this case: He left the building/He perished in the construction site.

    Did Brian have a wacky sense of humor? Was he a prankster? Was he the kind of guy to do spontaneous "funny" things on/around April Fool's Day?

    What if he entered the construction zone, saw a big barrel/55 gallon drum, slipped inside and planned to "surprise" his friends when they came looking for him? Add alcohol to the mix, an enclosed space with little oxygen, and a lid that became latched or stuck. . . yes, it's a far-out theory, but I haven't seen this type of "misadventure" scenario brought up before.

    Being stuck inside a metal container would account for the abrupt loss of phone contact, and if that barrel/container somehow became sealed, it would be heavy, and likely disposed of/stored with other construction containers that were heavy and "sealed."

    It would be interesting to find out if there are facilities or "dumps" for such containers near the phantom phone ping tower.

    IMO, MOO, just speculation
     
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    lachilton6 New Member

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  16. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to Ws lachilton6!
     
  17. Chad_York

    Chad_York Armchair Detective

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    Where was the bathroom in the Ugly Tuna Saloona? Also, do you think it's possible that law enforcement will ever release the footage of the back entrance?
     
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    smr Well-Known Member

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    The bathroom was checked. This video shows the back entrance (not sure if that's what you are looking for and if this has been posted, but there was Clint footage that I was interested to see, just to see what he's like):

     
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    Unsure of the language in this video, Russian maybe- the visuals are interesting.
     
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  20. itsrak

    itsrak Well-Known Member

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    Missing 13 years now....

    Long past time to release some hidden info to get this case solved? Such as, for example, why Alexis' father was of the opinion solution to the mystery runs through Clint Florence. Or why LE won't lay out it's theories - after all, they are only theories. Or perhaps release photos of the 'completely dug up' construction area. Publish archived surveillance cam vids? OSU - why not use modern tech to search the building - the building you own - in which your alumnus was last seen and seems no to have exited on 4/1/06?
     
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