OH OH - Brian Shaffer, 27, Columbus, 1 April 2006 - #3

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  1. drama_farmer

    drama_farmer "It's never just a mannequin"

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    Have you considered becoming a verified insider for this topic/thread? That would allow you to present information without an MSM link. IMO
     
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  2. Looking4Brian

    Looking4Brian Active Member

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    I really don’t know much about that, but I’m open for anything that could help this case.
     
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  3. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

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    I for one very much appreciate all the work you’re doing, for seeing it through, and for taking time out of your schedule to give us updates. I’m not on FB so have to rely on this forum for any information.

    And whatever you can share at this point is better than the radio silence that has been typical for so long. I’m really looking forward to knowing everything you’ve learned.
    Behind you all the way here! neesaki
     
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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Ditto from dotr!
     
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  5. Looking4Brian

    Looking4Brian Active Member

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    Thank you for the kind words neesaki and
    Dotr. I didn’t realize when I began this how deep the investigation would get, but I’m so glad I’m doing this. It is worth the time spent to hopefully bring answers to the Shaffer family. I will tell you something I personally found... we decided to look into a couple of more email addresses that Brian had access to. We chose this one in particular because Brian had used it before to register accounts. I believe this is an email address provided through the internet service provider. Then we noticed the email was used after Brian’s disappearance. Since it seemed to be a home based email go Brian we thought it could’ve been Randy, but the email pinged after Randy’s death as well. As I explained with the other email ping, our report provides an IP address when it last pings. So we started tracing the IP addresses associated with the new email and....we have IP addresses registered to 3 other colleges around the world, 2 of which are medical schools. Someone, somewhere is using proxy’s that send us to Colleges. What are your thoughts?
     
  6. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, are you saying these are emails being sent to this other email of Brian’s, or from, or both ? And his IP address changed several times? Apologies, I’m pretty terrible when it comes to this stuff. :/
    I actually am not exactly sure what is meant by ‘using proxys’ either. :oops:
    So if anyone can clarify this for me I sure would appreciate it, TiA.
     
  7. Kaie

    Kaie Well-Known Member

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    Thank-you! And sorry again for thinking that it was for any other reason. Looking forward to the podcast.

    This YouTube video might help explain it a bit neesaki...

     
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  8. neesaki

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    I’ll check it out as soon as I have a chance, looks interesting. Thank you Kaie!
     
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  9. Smiley IBI

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    JT, don't forget that a homeless man also claimed to see Brian eating a sandwich behind a store after his disappearance, he was SURE it was Brian. If that and the Hiliard phone ping aren't enough, there's the email "ping" in Italy. I've researched that extensively and it makes me very hopeful! I agree about the construction theory not being valid, I just don't ascribe to that theory. I think when John Hurst said it was "dug up", he didn't mean it as literally as many took it. That theory could be squashed (or proven) instantly if OSU (I understand they own that building) would allow professional sonar imaging. I like your thinking!
     
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  10. Smiley IBI

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    I talked to a friend that worked with Cingular and ATT and I used to work for a cell phone company called Powertel (Now T-mobile) and you couldn't ping a phone in 2006 (that didn't have GPS capabilities) that was not turned on, it was impossible.
     
  11. Smiley IBI

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    I work with law enforcement and I absolutely admire the fantastic work Kelly and crew have done on this case, I have to say I'm going with Kelly on this one! No offense to John Hurst whatsoever, I just think his words were taken out of context.
     
  12. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to Ws Smiley IBI, thanks for the insight!
    What do you think actually happened with Brian's phone?
     
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    Sgt. Hurst's words - he characterized the construction area as having been in a 'completely dug up' state, are recorded, and can thus be listened to fully in context and verbatim...
     
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  14. Smiley IBI

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    To be 100% honest, I am not sure. I think it's likely that Brian is alive but I keep an open mind. I will tell you this, dead or alive, I don't think he is anywhere near the UTS but I'd love for them to do sonar to prove it.
     
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    I LOVE that you are true to your "sources", that's so important and will pay off in the long run! :)
     
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    rs&bbm

    This baffles me--flat, hard-packed ground can be described as being "dug up?" How so?

    I disagree, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

    To me, dug up means just that. Dug up.
     
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    jtfolden Well-Known Member

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    You should read back for the full context. So far the ONLY picture that even offers a glimpse of the construction area (circa April 2006) also seems to show a scissor lift being used - which can not be used on anything but hard packed ground or better. That is where that comes from. ...and yes you can have the floor completely dug up and be down to "dirt" - that doesn't mean there are huge trenches so deep to where a body could go missing and not even be found by construction workers, LEO's, searchers, and cadaver dogs going through multiple times. The building itself was finished. Everything being done at that point was to complete the area for additional tenants.

    As I said previously, I asked Kelly Bruce (host of the Comeback and Missing In Ohio podcasts and I believe "Looking4Brian" right here in this discussion) about Hurst's comments on it, and the condition of it specifically. This is what she said:

    If you have anything at all to actually indicate the condition of that area then I would honestly love to see it but all the comments are vague on this as has been discussed. That people imagine it to be a certain way, doesn't make it so... Beyond that though, I have yet to see any professional directly involved in the case make a statement they think Brian is still in the building.
     
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  19. jtfolden

    jtfolden Well-Known Member

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    The claim by the homeless man interests me too but I haven't seen much about that report beyond one news article from, I think, NBC4 at the time.

    Yeah, if it were just the fact they were getting a ring when calling the number then I could accept the glitch idea, as well. The ping itself seems much harder to dismiss, though. It was certainly serious enough for Texas EquuSearch to go to Hilliard to search (and I'd love to know why they chose the exact area they did...).

    I don't necessarily think the ping means Brian is alive, though. I do think it's fairly solid evidence that at least his phone was turned on in that area though.
     
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