Found Deceased OH - Harley Dilly, 14, walking to Port Clinton High School, 20 Dec 2019 #4

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  1. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    Been trying to envision how a person would climb down a chimney feet first and IMO I think at first it would not be that difficult if one puts their back against the wall and puts their feet on the opposite wall to push their weight against their own back which keeps the person secured and keeps them from sliding down. I think the problem is that it takes leg strength and probably some arm strength to start to maneuver down. So a person could hold themselves for awhile but eventually the muscles in the legs would not be able to keep pressing against the wall and eventually a person would finally have to just slip on down until wedged. Ugggggg.

    This link below is not a real good example because the inside of the walls is far apart and they are doing it sideways with both hands and feet, and going up instead of down, but it gives you an idea how you can push against opposite sides of the walls to keep your body from going down.

     
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  2. Pugsterpig

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    I apologize if this was mentioned already (tried to keep up while at work ), how did his coat and glasses get inside the house? Had he already been in and out before going down chimney and getting stuck?
     
  3. Rossymom

    Rossymom Well-Known Member

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    Harley crawled right into a lot of our hearts here at WS. We had so many video's to listen to his voice, see him interact with friends, and pour out his feelings. I was looking for him at every stop on I70 and we cut across Ohio to base after Christmas. I hate that his classmates will walk this path of sorrow. They are too young to deal with this. Old people die, not your buddies!
    I pray for peace to blanket this community.
     
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    Thanks for welcoming me. I am more of a lurker, but I think I will contribute more to these threads in the future.
     
  5. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    It appears that he pushed them through an opening in the chimney flue. There is no evidence that he first entered the house.
     
  6. MichelleBlue

    MichelleBlue Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for sharing this video. It actually made me smile. Harley was a funny kid.

    IMO it appears based on the info that LE has shared that this was truly accidental & no one is to blame. I'm sure his parents feel a lot of guilt - for not letting him stay home from school that Friday, for the conflicts that they had with him & each other, etc. I'm sure LE feels some element of regret that they did not find him in time. However, there was no way LE could have searched (or would have reason to search) every occupied or unoccupied structure within walking distance of HD's home. I hope Harley's family, friends, teachers, and all of the first responders find peace and healing.
     
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  7. Angelcat13

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    Agree 100%.
     
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    I have a lil pink gps key ring my 20 something daughter will hook on her jeans or something when she goes out on a date just for my piece of mind . This case is just sad I feel for his sister
     
  10. wishBones1962

    wishBones1962 Well-Known Member

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    MOO - potential COD. Positional asphyxia-
    Positional asphyxia, also known as postural asphyxia, is a form of asphyxia which occurs when someone's position prevents the person from breathing adequately.
    Suffocation.
    It is possible to die from hanging upside down for too long. It's rare, but blood can pool to the head, which can be extremely dangerous for the body.
    Hanging Upside Down: Effects, Risks, and Benefits
    Injury.
    I'm just putting these out there.
     
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    simlyme member since 04/2009

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    It definitely does- I needed that visual! So I think we can assume he threw his coat and glasses down there before he crawled in? Although if they weren’t visible when they landed I have to wonder where he thought they went. Maybe he thought he’d take the same route as them and assumed he’d end up in the house? Tragic, tragic situation...MOO
     
  13. Angelcat13

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    True, that's what I meant.
     
  14. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    Please excuse me if this has already been posted....need to catch up once again. Someone else may be able to understand more of how articles ended up on the 2nd floor

    See the linked page for a working video (mine here is just a screenshot to show Harley’s home and the empty house) and more info.

    Expert explains chimney design to surmise how Harley Dilly's coat, glasses were on 2nd floor of house

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    According to the expert, looking into the opening, the smoke shelf can be seen and that would appear to be the bottom of the chimney. However, the opening then takes a sharp twist.

    The flue, which could be angled in the open position, is located there. If the glasses and coat were dropped, they would be deflected onto the floor. Besides the chimney opening twisting at that site, it also narrows to roughly six inches, making it impossible for anyone of any size to squeeze through.
     
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    I am surprised dogs did not pick up a scent around the house. Also do we know if he was alone when he went to the house ?
     
  16. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I’m not surprised. Atleast a couple days would have passed since he climbed that tower, and entered the chimney.

    Dogs aren’t 100% accurate anyways. There is no indication he was with anyone else.
     
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    My guess on that question? Because 14 yr. old boys do not consider risks involved in crawling inside of a chimney
    Me? If I asked LE to search a certain location and they deemed it unnecessary? I would do it myself, even if I had to break and enter to do it.
     
  19. Meloni88

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    Surely they could contact the owner and ask for permission though? It just seem so obvious to me... it's a logical place for him to be especially considering his habit of not coming home at night.
    It's beside the point that he would have been dead already, they didn't know that. He could have been alive and just injured or hiding from everyone.
     
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  20. TropicalTapioca

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    I don’t think the suspect anyone else, but who knows?

    I believe when he left his house at 6 am that morning, was seen at 6:08, that he went straight to the house... maybe he didn’t even have the plans to go there. Maybe he just noticed the antenna or maybe he went to scope out the place for a 2 week hideaway?

    Does anyone know if the parent of his friend, spoke out on what time he left and why? My heart just breaks not only for Harley, his parents, friends, teachers, but the guilt that parent must have, if indeed he was sent home.
     
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