Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by JerseyGirl, Dec 23, 2019.
When something tragic like this happens, there are those who always have to place blame. IME
Jan 19, 2020
PORT CLINTON — A community that was once united in its search for missing 14-year-old Harley Dilly, now stands divided by lingering questions surrounding his death.
After being missing for almost four weeks, police found Dilly's body in the chimney of a vacant house on Fulton Street less than a block from his home.
Port Clinton police believe he got stuck when he tried to climb through the 9-by-13-inch chimney to get into the house. The coroner ruled he died of compressive asphyxia meaning his lungs didn’t have enough room to expand to fill with air.
Many people accept the police investigation’s conclusion, while others believe too many questions remain unanswered. On Sunday, roughly a dozen people gathered outside the vacant house with signs demanding answers and justice for Dilly.
“We just feel this boy was let down in life, and we need to be his voice now,” Melinda Lannon said. “I don’t believe what we’re being told.
yes, for sure!
I thought the same regarding the beautiful, heartfelt obituary. It might have helped even a tiny bit with public perception if the family had issued a similar public statement, just saying that they are heartbroken by the loss their son, that Harley was a wonderful boy who will be greatly missed by his family, and thank you to all who searched for him, please respect their privacy during this difficult time, etc. Instead of trying to engage unfiltered with the masses on social media. But, probably not everyone thinks in that mindset, especially in the midst of dealing with a tragedy.
I wish they had a less immediate family member, family friend, pastor, attorney, anyone really with a bit of distance from the situation, just kind of helping a family navigate or give some guidance if they aren't as equipped to do themselves. It seems like in cases where the victim has a large social media presence, especially videos, it attracts more attention and trolls than usual, simply because there is so much content available for everyone to armchair analyze.
I'm curious for those of you who keep insisting it was a tragic accident and getting upset with those who have questions about it or want to see it investigated ...
Chief Hickman clearly stated in his presser that it appeared to be a tragic accident however it was an ongoing investigation.
That isn't affirmative that it was an accident. He hasn't said that it was 100% an accident nor has he said that there is 100% no way something else didn't happen.
So if it's okay that you believe the accident part ...
Why can't others believe the ongoing investigation might show that it wasn't?
The parents aren't to blame for HD going down the chimney, BUT they are responsible for his well being in which case they didn't do their job. There is still a 4 yr old left in their care that I'm still worried about.
IMO, LE does not talk like that. We know 100% anything.... The words being used are typical (appears, ongoing investigation, we believe).
If that is the case, we should just leave it to the authorities and social services to look into if need be, not analyze it from afar publicly when we don't really know their situation. Also, LE has attended their home in the past according to media, so they know 'the score.' These parents, whatever your opinion is of them, have lost a child, and are grieving.
I wonder for those of you who are satisfied with the conclusion to this case what you hope to find here?
Personally I am not. This doesn't mean I think his family are directlyinvolved it simply means I think that the findings are unsatisfactory. I am at a disadvantage due to my location there are somethings I simply cannot fact check for myself. I had thought asking questions and was in essence how we discover the truth.
No. They're unlikely to say anything is 100%
However they are still being pretty non-committal. Why would it still be an open investigation if they've ruled it accidental ? Case would be closed, no? "We've completed our investigation."
But that's not what we're hearing.
It leaves it open to speculation. And IMO it doesn't seem right for people here to be shouting down those that believe that this isn't over.
When the autopsy arrives more will be explained.
We need to just be patient.
If she didn't see him before school where was she already at work? I'm confused I scoured media reports and I'm missing info on where/why no one saw him that morning.
I’m just waiting for the homeowner to be blamed for having a fireplace in the house, having a chimney, having a vacant house, pick one.
I believe that LE making the statement it appeared to be an accident and is still under investigation is CYA until all tests are done and LE is completely satisfied based on science and forensics that it’s exactly what happened. To make a statement before all tests are in would be irresponsible IMO
I believe "seeking treasures" is a game reference (Fortnite) and not literally looking to steal from home on Harley's street. (Reference according to his mom). MOO
I'm satisfied with the conclusion because I can't think of one single thing that would change the result or who it's attributed to. I believe Harley's death was an accident and he died because he got stuck down a chimney he climbed into on his own, and I can't think of a single scenario where that's NOT what happened. That's part of the reason I asked for your theory earlier. Imo, there might be some interesting non-material details that could or may be found, but nothing that would change those material conclusion that I can imagine.
Is locking a minor outside in the cold even legal?
Where is this MSM information?
I have not read this anywhere.
Please supply a link.