Found Deceased OH - Harley Dilly, 14, walking to Port Clinton High School, 20 Dec 2019 #5

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  1. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    I thought I heard him sat 'Shrooms' too. But I listened a few more times to that part, and he actually said 'streams'.....JMO
     
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    So the police chief said, "there is only so much we can say RIGHT NOW." Hmmm, i wonder what he means by that. That he is waiting for the autopsy, or to learn more info himself, before he can share it? Aka: he doesn't have any info now to share. Or, that he does have other info now, but someone, or something is preventing him from sharing it now?
     
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    simlyme member since 04/2009

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    I feel like crawling into a hole!! I'm so sorry!!!

    But, I still think we can't rule out the toxicology report, and of course I would never blame Harley for trying drugs if he had, he had to get them from someone else. I just hope this whole investigation can come to a close and his family can greive how they wish to and can begin to heal somehow.
     
  4. firebird

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    I think you're saying you have no idea how the fireplace gets closed off? If that's what you're saying, I know the answer. I grew up in a home that was built (partially) before the revolutionary war and had a fireplace in all of the main rooms. Once boilers/furnaces became available, it was the trend to install a furnace in the basement and cover up the fireplaces. In my house, they just lathed and plastered over the fireplace opening. That was common. We still had mantles around a painted drywall square where the fireplace itself and the hearth used to be. The chimney was totally intact, just not used. It wasn't until many decades after fireplaces were no longer a necessity that they came into vogue.
     
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    Over the the Heidi Broussard thread I remember discussing decomp and its different stages.

    So thinking about that a little while ago, I've been wondering about Harley, decomp and gravity.

    Would gravity alter the position of the body? Maybe not alter but, maybe make it askew?

    Daniel Cadigan the coroner said : "There is no accurate forensic way of determining an exact time of death in such circumstances."
     
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    v0x Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    It’s common for LE to hold back certain information in ongoing investigations for various reasons.
     
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    simlyme member since 04/2009

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    Yes, because I thought I read that there were no fireplaces. We have our fireplace closed at the chimney with just the damper, and I tried like heck to pull the damper down with my hands and could not. We don't use the fireplace because our home was built in 54 and I don't trust the chimney. We do use one of our other fireplaces,but the damper is closed and we use a non vented gas log set we just put in. Our chimney does have a cover on it with screen and a hard top to keep the birds and squirrels out.
     
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    Don’t feel that way! I wasn’t trying to call you out at all here. I just included the video so others could listen for themselves.
     
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    If you had asked me whether we had fireplaces in our house, I would have said no. Even though we had multiple fireplaces covered up with lathe and plaster. The fireplace part was not visible and couldn't be used, obviously. And if you went down the chimney, you wouldn't have been able to get out, just as Harley couldn't. In fact, that's a big part of the reason I didn't believe in Santa Claus after age 5 or so.:p
     
  10. v0x

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    It’s been reported that the owners have said there has never been a fireplace in the house. There were stoves that piped exhaust to the chimney. I’ll try to find the link.

    ETA link ‘Our family is heartbroken over this’: Owner of home where Harley Dilly’s body was found speaks out
     
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    I read that, too. But I find that pretty hard to believe if the house was built in the 1800's. I wonder if the house has been in family forever.

    Eta: especially since it has a brick chimney at the center of the house.
     
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    "He somehow got inside safely then decided to go up the chimney for some reason. Probably removed his coat so it would not be such a tight squeeze. Sounds like he was exploring options of how to get in and out of the house"


    That ^^^ doesn't seem likely to me. If he was inside safely, I can't imagine him climbing up to the roof and then jumping into the chimney. Why do that? If he was already safely inside the house he wouldn't need an 'option' like a chimney. He could just leave a window unlocked.

    Or he could do whatever he did in the 1st place to get inside. [which I don't think ever happened.]

    Besides, if he had been inside safely, he would have seen there was no fireplace in the house.
    JMO IMO
     
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    For reference, a typical dinner plate is usually a 10" diameter.
     
  15. simlyme

    simlyme member since 04/2009

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    He says "He also says the home does not have a fireplace." I guess we can read it as it doesn't have a fireplace now but most likely did in earlier years. That's the only way I can see it right now. :(
     
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    JaneEyre Mean people suck.

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    Given that the house has been in the same family since it was built, I trust the homeowner’s knowledge.
     
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    Remember that even the pioneers would haul STOVES with them - much more efficient and easier to use than fireplaces. A lot of early houses had coal-burning stoves and "furnaces". The pot-bellied stoves and the coal furnaces were popular. The very elderly I have spoken with can remember walking along RR tracks gathering fallen chunks of coal to heat homes in the Depression. NOTE don't burn coal at home without knowing about coal and its need to be burned on a special grate.

    Mooooooo
     
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  19. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Ha! Exactly. Investigators have witnessed the scene first hand, and I’m sure it’s readily apparent how this all went down.

    As you say though, it would make absolutely no sense for him to attempt to go up the chimney, ignoring the fact that it’s almost certainly impossible.
     
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    JaneEyre Mean people suck.

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    Exactly. That’s why he notes that there were only stovepipe holes on each floor.
     
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