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OH OH - Lucas Co., Male Skeletal UP12757, 40-65, on Lake Erie shore, Jul'14

Discussion in 'The Unidentified' started by zwiebel, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. zwiebel

    zwiebel New Member

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    Maumee Bay, Lucas Cnty, OH.

    'Skeletal remains found Thursday on rocks behind Toledo Edison’s Bayshore power plant have been taken to the Lucas County Coroner’s Office for further investigation.

    Police chief Mike Navarre said investigators will check missing-person reports from communities in Michigan and Canada. He believes it is likely the remains washed up from Lake Erie'

    http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-F...ely-Mich-missing-man.html#hxAkViuHODoQT6Cl.99
     
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    They note that it's "nearly impossible" to be Brian Martin, 52, who went missing from Toledo on the 22nd of June.

    Also, the remains are likely to be at least 6 months old.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    This may be an entirely dumb question, but I don't understand how a full skeleton would wash up to shore. Was it complete? Wouldn't it separate from the action of the waves? I wonder if it was partially skeletonized??
     
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    It could be that the entire body washed up, then became skeletonized over time. The location description in the article sounds somewhat isolated (rocks behind power plant)
     
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    Decomposition happens slower in water than it does on land. The general rule is ''1 week on land = 2 weeks in water''. And, as we all know, decomposition is faster in hot weather and slower in cold weather.

    Bodies usually resurface within a few days or weeks depending on the time of year, because putrefaction happens and the gases that build up push the body towards the surface. This paper is referring to the Thames river and the Great Lakes and notes that, during the months of January and February, it's possible the body may never resurface. The postmortem interval for this skeleton was 6 months, which would place the time of death at around that time. So it's a minor miracle the body even came up.

    (Btw I recommend reading that paper. It's lecture notes for some forensic medicine class in the UK, but it has some important info on drowning, how forensic pathologists determine drowning as a cause of death, and the effects of immersion on a dead body. Morbid but interesting stuff.)

    I think what happened is that the person died in the lake in winter, the body sunk down to the bottom and it was kept fairly preserved by the icy cold water. Then the weather warmed and the body rose to the surface - still intact - and floated for a while before ending up on the shore. But it wasn't discovered immediately, and it eventually decomposed down to the bone.
     
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    Interesting and great article! Thanks for the info.
     
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    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    http://www.norwalkreflector.com/article/4767681

     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    His Namus page: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12757. We must have known that since the case number is in the title, but I didn't see it earlier.

    No ruleouts are listed. DNA is under way.
     

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