OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #58

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  1. Loudestbough

    Loudestbough Active Member

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    Yes, and if I am reading this right, he resubmitted it after his lawyers pulled it the first time.
     
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  2. StrangeOne

    StrangeOne Well-Known Member

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    I am ready for the trials to start. Will there be any sleuthers in attendance?
     
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  3. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Probably not until after the first of the year, closer to springtime. Just a WAG on my part. I'd like to go, but it would be a long trip with no guarantee of getting in. That's assuming it's held in Pike County.

    Also depends on the status of the pandemic.
     
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  4. Caylee Advocate

    Caylee Advocate My Give A Damn's Busted

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    I plan to be there when my schedule allows. ;)
     
  5. Sleuthinsleuther

    Sleuthinsleuther Well-Known Member

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    I plan on being there and being vocal as well
     
  6. sunshineray

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    Twice and within just days....very unhappy inmate.
     
  7. Johnny B Bad

    Johnny B Bad Well-Known Member

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    What are you going to be vocal about if I may ask????
     
  8. Sleuthinsleuther

    Sleuthinsleuther Well-Known Member

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    You’ll just have to wait and see ;)
     
  9. Johnny B Bad

    Johnny B Bad Well-Known Member

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    So in theory, who do you think killed the Rhodens/ Gilley?????
     
  10. Ann99

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    I plan to attend.
    But as Betty says, depends upon state of the pandemic.
    I am also hoping it will be covered by TV
     
  11. Sleuthinsleuther

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    My opinion does not matter.
     
  12. Cool Cats

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    Everybody is "entitled" to your opinion ... lol ... !
     
  13. CIA Team Member

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    Wonder if it could be live streamed under the circumstances we're in? Wonder who we'd contact for that? The court itself?
     
  14. Betty P

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    If one of the crime shows doesn't cover it on cable/streaming tv, perhaps one of the local stations will carry it on their FB page. In recent trials I followed, some have done that. Other big trials seen recently had reporters in the courtroom giving live Twitter updates. Some reporters are pretty good at that and it works well.
     
  15. Caylee Advocate

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  16. Nanasteele

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    I am going to try and be there also.
     
  17. Puzzles8

    Puzzles8 Exonerated Mountain Lion

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    Once the courtroom is set up to allow for the jury's safe social distancing, I don't foresee a lot of space available for those wishing to attend the trials in person.

    I wonder how they will prioritize who will be allowed to attend in person.
     
  18. Cool Cats

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    Right. It already happened, I mean with the court gallery. If you look at George's Bond Hearing you can see that the last 2 rows of benches remain in the gallery and the rest of the benches have been replaced with chairs that are spread apart.

    There will not be room for anyone but family and reporters to attend I'm pretty sure but just opinion. Family will always have the priority. Since all the hearings have been live-streamed by WKRC Cincinnati, I think there is a good chance that we will get some of the trial live-streamed. Sure hope so.

    Also, to have trial video to look back on will be important for the family members who cannot attend including family witnesses who are not allowed to attend before they are called to the stand. Note we haven't seen certain family witnesses in the gallery at all.
     
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    - WAGNER, IV, GEORGE WASHINGTON

    11/03/2020
    This cause came on for a hearing on August 31, 2020, upon the following pre-trial motions:


    Defendant's Motion No. 58 - "Defendant's Motion For Bond Hearing"

    "Motion of The State of Ohio In A Capital Case And Pursuant to Statute To Hold The Defendant Without Bail"

    Defendant's Motion No. 59 - "Defendant's Motion For An Order Requiring The Prosecution To Provide A Transcript Of Audio Recordings It Intends To Introduce At Trial."

    Defendant's Motion No. 60 - "Defendant's Motion for an Order Compelling the State of Ohio to Provide the Defendant with all Forensic Evidence and or Reports."

    The Court finds that with respect to Defendant's Motion No. 59, the parties agreed that on or before December 31, 2020, the State of Ohio will provide the Defendant with summaries of all recorded telephone calls and other recorded conversations that the State of Ohio intends to use in the trial of this action, as well as transcripts of those positions of any recorded telephone calls and other recorded conversations that the State of Ohio intends to use at the trial of this action.

    The Court further finds that with respect to Defendant's Motion No. 60, the parties have agreed that within thirty (30) days after August 31, 2020, the State of Ohio will provide the Defendant with copies of all lab reports for all forensic tests that the State of Ohio intends to use at the trial of this action, together with bench notes for all such reports.

    Thereupon, oral hearing was held upon the Defendant's Motion No. 58, entitled "Defendant's Motion For Bond Hearing," and upon the "Motion of The State of Ohio In A Capital Case And Pursuant to Statute To Hold The Defendant Without Bail."

    The hearing consisted of a stipulation between the State of Ohio and the Defendant that the indictment in the present action charges the Defendant with capital crimes and does contain death penalty specifications. The hearing also consisted of the sworn, oral testimony of Ryan Scheiderer, Special Agent with the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation, exhibits admitted into evidence, and the arguments of counsel.

    Having been fully informed in the premises, the Court finds that the filing of an indictment charging the Defendant with a capital offense creates a rebuttable presumption that, unless rebutted, is sufficient to justify holding the Defendant without bail.

    The Court finds from the evidence presented at the oral hearing that the Defendant did not rebut the presumption, and that, therefore, the Defendant's motion requesting that the Defendant be released on bail is not well taken and is denied, and that the State of Ohio's motion requesting that the Defendant be held without bail is well taken and is granted.

    Bail Denied
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    WAGNER, EDWARD JACOB

    11/04/2020
    JOURNAL ENTRY -- On this 21st day of September, 2020, this cause came on for hearing on certain pre-trial motions filed by the Defendant.


    Defendant's Motion No. 47 - "Defendant's Motion In Limine Requesting A Pretrial Evidentiary Hearing To Determine the Admissibility Of Ballistics Evidence And Opinions"

    Defendant's Motion No. 48 - "Defendant's Motion In Limine Requesting A Pretrial Evidentiary Hearing To Determine The Admissibility of Shoeprint Evidence And Opinions"

    Defendant's Motion No. 49 - "Defendant's Motion In Limine Requesting A Pretrial Evidentiary Hearing To Determine The Admissibility Of Any Written Communications The State of Ohio Intends To Present In Its Case In Chief"

    Defendant's Motion No. 50 - "Defendant's Motion In Limine Requesting A Pretrial Evidentiary Hearing To Determine The Admissibility Of Any Non-Testifying Co-Defendant Statements The State Intends To Present In Its Case In Chief"

    Defendant's Motion No. 51 - "Notice of An Actual Conflict And Motion To Revoke Andrew Wilson's Appointment As Special Prosecuting Attorney"

    Defendant's Motion No. 52 - "Defendant's Motion For An Order Requiring The Prosecution To Provide A Transcript Of Audio Recordings It Intends To Introduce At Trial"

    Defendant's Motion No. 53 - "Defendant's Motion For An Order Compelling The State of Ohio To Provide The Defendant With All Forensic Expert Reports And Underlying Data"

    Counsel for the Defendant informed the Court that the defense did not wish to proceed on this day with hearing on Defendant's Motion No. 47 and Defendant's Motion No 48.

    Therefore, upon agreement of the parties, it is ordered that Defendant's Motion No. 52 is granted, and it is ordered that the State of Ohio will furnish the Defendant with transcripts of any audio recordings that the State of Ohio intends to introduce at the trial in this action on or before December 31, 2020.

    It is further ordered upon agreement of the parties that Defendant's Motion No. 53 is granted and that on or before October 29, 2020, the State of Ohio shall furnish the Defendant with all forensic expert reports and underlying data, including bench notes, that were prepared for the State of Ohio, or provided to the State of Ohio or made known to the State of Ohio during the investigation of this action.

    With respect to Defendant's Motion No. 49 and Defendant's Motion No. 50, defense counsel indicated that the Defendant intends to file supplemental memoranda in support of such motions in order to identify those specific portions of statements and documents that the Defendant wishes to place at issuer for in limine review.

    The Court took Defendant's Motion No. 51 under advisement and will issue a decision concerning the same.

    It is therefore ORDERED that the Court Reporter shall prepare a transcript of the hearing held on August 31, 2020, for George Washington Wagner IV Motion For Bond Hearing and shall furnish a copy of the transcript to counsel for the Defendant and a copy also to counsel for the State of Ohio.

    The transcript shall not include copies of exhibits introduced at such hearing, which exhibits are being held under seal.

    It was also agreed between the parties that the time within which the State of Ohio would provide the Defendant with specific information as to evidence of "other crimes, wrongs or acts" of the Defendant, if any, that the State of Ohio intends to introduce at the trial would be extended to October 29, 2020, at 1:00 p.m.
     
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