OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #74

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How are y'all watching this trial? I think Court TV is streaming it but they were showing a different trial today.

Recaps I briefly saw parts of this afternoon...wow that Angela. She's like Hotel California.

Tabitha's son...does she have him now? How did she ever get out of there?
George and Tabitha had a fight and Angie threatened to get a gun and shoot Tabitha. Tabitha went out on the property and hid until it was dark enough for her to take a bike and ride to the nearest gas station where she could call for help and she never went back again.

She went to court and fought for custody and remarried. She won custody and now her son knows she didn't try to poison him or kill the Rhodens. He is old enough now to know some of the truth.
 

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George and Tabitha had a fight and Angie threatened to get a gun and shoot Tabitha. Tabitha went out on the property and hid until it was dark enough for her to take a bike and ride to the nearest gas station where she could call for help and she never went back again.
I had to stop watching before this part. Wow. Can you imagine?
 

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Do I think the Ws are guilty? Yes. Do I think this was about custody? No. Was it a boon? Yes.

Yeah. There was too much of that going on, imo.
What is a boon?

You discount custody so why do you think the Wagner's killed a whole family?

Don't you think obsession and control of the children, like DeWine said, played a part?

A custody dispute between two families that erupted into the massacre of eight people in rural southern Ohio started with a plan to kill just one of them, a young mother refusing to give up her daughter, a prosecutor said Monday.

But just months before the killings in 2016, the family behind the plot decided to kill everyone who could point the finger at them, the prosecutor said during opening statements of the first trial in the slayings.

Massacre of 8 people began with plot to kill 19-year …

Massacre of 8 people began with plot to kill 19-year-old mom and other victims were "collateral damage," Ohio prosecutor says​

 
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Hearing that AW went into GW bed to 'discuss the day' while 'scratching his back' is so disturbing.

What if the genders were reversed?

The state cut a deal with AW when they already had JW's deal.

Why? She is the worst of them all.

JMO.
That's sick and very twisted, sexually and emotionally - imo. Don't bother reversing the genders; it's not needed. What is wrong with this family. I would like to know what abuse occurred and for how many generations.
 

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Do I think the Ws are guilty? Yes. Do I think this was about custody? No. Was it a boon? Yes.

Yeah. There was too much of that going on, imo.
I go back to what FBI profilers said about the two Columbine killers: where there are killers working together, you may have different personalities and different motives. I think custody of the children, given the testimony today and Jake's trip to the hospital to see if he could take Hanna's 2nd child, was a primary motive. But it is likely (in my opinion, only) that Billy also had financial motives, especially if he owed CR Sr. a lot of money or if he thought CR Sr. had lots of cash on the property. It seems that many crimes Wagners did had money as a motive.
 

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Tuesday, October 4th:
*Trial continues (Day 16) (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) & a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 30) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table if his testimony is truthful.
Trial began on 8/29/22 with final jury selection & the jury was seated on 8/30/22. 12 Jurors & 6 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 6 alternates: (5 women & 1 man). 9/30/22: Ill juror replaced with alternate. 12 jurors & 5 alternates. Jury: (9 women & 3 men) & 5 alternates (4 women & 1 man).
Trial began with opening statements began on Monday, 9/12/22. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).

Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 9/6/22 & Trial Day 1-14 (9/12 to 9/30/22), no hearing on 9/29/22 post #179 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...mbers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-9

10/3/22 Monday, Trial Day 15: State witness: Chelsea Robinson. Girl friend of Frankie’s. Had Frankie’s baby. Back on stand.
No tweets were of testimony.
State witness: Jeffrey Tackett, friend of Billy's.
for more info see posts #219 & 220 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-11
for more info see posts #224 & 226 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-12
for more info see post #243 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-13
for more info see post #262 & 266 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-14
State witness: Smanatha Staley. She & her father worked for Fredericka Wagner.
for more info see posts #289, 290, 297 to 299 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-15
for more info see posts #303, 307, 313 & 316 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-16
for more info see posts #322 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-17
State witness: Tabitha Claytor. Previously married to George.
for more info see posts #341 to 343, 353, 354, 356 & 359 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-18
for more info see posts #363 & 376 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-19
for more info see posts #389 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-20
for more info see posts #465 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-24
All witnesses – see article on post #482 recap here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-74.638537/page-25
Trial continues on 10/4/22.
 
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