OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#46

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  1. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    My feeling is that she is very rigid. OP on here mentioned, and I'm loosely quoting, that FW didn't seem to be a cuddly grandma. I do not get that feeling from her either. Not. At. All.

    At this stage, I don't think that she had a part in the murders (she may have figured it out at some point, afterwards). If she, or RN, were in any way accomplices, I think they'd have charged them with complicity. Should it come out down the pike that either of them did know beforehand, and assisted in making the murders happen, I think they'll charge them. I just don't think they have that right now.

    BBM
    That's my impression of G3. Well, for the most part, the entire W4 family, but even a blind hog can figure out how to find an acorn sometimes, I guess.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    Same. I like to watch Mind Hunter too when I get the chance. I like to look at all the angles and dynamics. We'll not find anything out for sure til the trials, so I just puzzle over different scenarios and such til that happens.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    They were hauling them at one time. I believe they have hauled to that big yards in TX... I think, think, some of the evidence came from TX. Don't hold me to that though.
     
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  4. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Well-Known Member

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    They bred them for a while as well. I found something about a year ago that I thought referenced Billy on the cattle side. I didn't save it and can't remember for sure so will have to try and find it...

    When we started our mini project in the early 90’s we found leads on three mini herds and tried to track them down. It turned out to be the same herd. It started in the early 1980’s by Fredericka Wagner at her Flying W Farm,Piketown,Ohio.

    Tracking Down the Elusive Mini Highland Bull | Miniature Highland Cattle

    AKCA - Animals Search Results
     
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  5. Kyshoegal

    Kyshoegal Well-Known Member

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    rsd I agree, until I was directed to the Flying W page I had no idea they were actually those horses, maybe they should have payed a little more attention to the horses after all. It's a shame
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    I'd not run across the cattle. This is like a giant onion with never ending layers!

    I'd not seen where G3, nor the boys, ever got into the horsey set world, though, like their immediate relatives. I found it interesting, as working with, and riding, horses can be very calming and therapeutic. Seems their family branch might have benefited from the sport. j.s. o_O
     
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  7. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Well-Known Member

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    Shall we add Chinchillas? Lol
    Seriously..yep that too
    I don't know that they bred them but they ran ads looking for them.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    I believe you! Those little buggers go for around 100-$150 each around here, depending upon the type. Yes, there are Chinchilla standards. They all just look cute and furry to me. I'd not know the difference. :p
     
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    BBM. Does the Prosecution have any influence, like does the judge discuss the order with the judge before it’s decided? I would think that might effect the strategy of the prosecution and possibly produce spoilers for future trials. Idk, jmo.
     
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    Defiance Farms FB has a photo that references "hauling cattle."
     
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    BW looks all shucks until you look at his white supremacist tattoos. IMO
     
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    I think he's as dangerous as they come. JMO
     
  13. Dudly

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    I wonder if I might have been some places where Bob and Fred may have been, also. I used to go to exotic animal swap meets and auctions where the Miniature Horses, Highland Cattle, and most any unusual animals were sold. Lions, tigers, bears, wolves, monkeys, Emu, ostrich, potbelly pigs, hedge hogs, and many other critters are sold at these...
     
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    That's why I love the chihuahuas and min pin's. You could give those little dogs a treat every day at the same time for ten years and they would still bark when you come around. Lol. Those two breeds are loyal to one person only and although they will accept a treat from you it does not mean they are your friend. They still bark, sometimes as soon as they eat your treat.

    JMO
     
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    Who’s house where George the 4ths ex in-laws interview in for the the TV show? One lady was in her maids uniform. JMO
     
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    I use the first names of the victims and suspects. I use initials for anyone else mentioned. It's a lot easier that way and makes it clear who you are talking about.

    JMO
     
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    He is so young. How did he die?
     
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    Cops arrest the 76 year old granny cause she bought 2 kevlar vests and cops ask where she got them. She said Amazon but that was a BIG FAT LIE whoo Whooo it was Ebay, Gotcha ! Gimme a break, im sorry but I think if the rest of the evidence is kin to this type Columbo style work then all of the charged should walk. And every one of us should fear LE when they get into this mentality where they make an arrest for something so silly. Did I mention the vest was bought 15 days AFTER the murders, imagine that...Sorry for the attitude but I have seen so many innocent folks railroaded when i was working I just have an opinion of some LE and it ain't good lol

    A matriarch's fight: Fredericka Wagner denies charges, allegations in Pike County mass murder
     
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  19. Cool Cats

    Cool Cats "JUSTICE IS COMING "

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    BBM

    There is a ton of evidence, and Fred's case has enough evidence to be brought to trial.
    It's not so simple, it's not a 2 hour "Columbo episode".

    Exhibit 1 Wagner, Fredericka

    Prosecutors: Charges against Fredericka Wagner should stand

    Defense in Pike County massacre asks to see slew of new evidence including ‘Boondock Saints’ clip

    Angela Wagner :
    Discovery Evidence Supplemental March 20, 2019--more was released earlier

    Discovery : Jake Wagner Discovery Evidence--1st Batch--December 20, 2018
     
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    dizzychick Well-Known Member

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    this right here we called the " kitchen sink" technique designed to weigh down the defense and bog them down with useless BS in an attempt to hide the fact they have no real evidence against one or all of the persons charged in this crime


    Brewer Letters
     
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