OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#46

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  1. Cool Cats

    Cool Cats COLUMBO "One more thing" MONK "A jungle out there"

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    The indictments are very telling --- and chilling. The Jurors will decide if all this evidence is just simply "BS" as you clearly state.

    That's why we have trials. The prosecution has to prove it's evidence before the Jury. That's why the question gets asked: "Proven or Disproven?" And why it's stated: "Let the evidence show"......

    Pike County Murder Indictments
     
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    Johnny B Bad Well-Known Member

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    Angie Canepa new when and where the bulletproof vest where bought, she was trying to prove that Bad Billy or one of the other Wagners purchase the BV, (Angie did prove it,) Old FW fell right into her trap, Fredericka lied on the wittiness stand to the grand jurors, she testified that she bought the BV but couldn’t tell where or when, FW will say whatever to protect the Son and Grandsons, she is lying on national TV, she and attorney James Owens is trying to put doubt into future jurors heads. JMO
     
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    Tiff23fr Well-Known Member

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    This is not the first time I have come across this, has anyone else seen indications Billy used the alias of William?

    Defendant 1:
    Wagner, William Attorney:
    D.B.A./A.K.A.:
    Dba Whitespines Kennel
    Address: P.o. Box 1394
    C/S/Z: Lucasville, Oh 45648
    Date Served: 07/11/2003


    Defendant 2: Wagner, Angela Attorney: Pro Se
    D.B.A./A.K.A.: Dba Whitespines Kennel
    Address: P.o. Box 1394
    C/S/Z: Lucasville, Oh 45648
    Date Served: 07/11/2003
     
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    Tiff23fr Well-Known Member

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    Car accident. I think someone posted the obit or article further down that page.
     
  5. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't just the vests. It was involvement in plotting revenge against an BCI investigator, a county sheriff and the Attorney General of Ohio.
    "Special Prosecutor Angie Canepa alleged a confidential informant told them of a meeting at Wagner's home with her family members where they had "conversations surrounding if one or more of them were arrested what the others were to do including taking revenge on those persons not arrested" and plans for escape. She also alleged they spoke of taking revenge on a special agent, Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader, and Attorney General Mike DeWine."
    Rhoden family massacre: Prosecutor alleges Fredericka Wagner plotted revenge
     
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    Just thinking about how tense, scared and losing it the W's must have been to not only plot to harm an investigator, sheriff and state's AG but plot to harm the W's not arrested if just one or two of them were. Sounds like they were all pretty manic at that point in time. I think this all happened when they came back to Ohio from Alaska. They were sure feeling the pressure to openly threaten each other, yet alone the law. AJMO
     
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    Kyshoegal Well-Known Member

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    OOOOH, well I haven't seen those
     
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    When he was arrested in KY he was brought before a judge to be extradited. Short sleeves on the jumpsuit showed them off good.
     
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    Does anyone know anything about Jake's wife? I guess she is not able to be discussed though since she is not part of the case
     
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    dizzychick On Time Out

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    if they were purchased after the murders what difference does it make? Whether she bought them at Ebay, Amazon or Kamart it should not be of any concern to the LE and the fact she even knows how to buy stuff online impressed me. I think it shows they were in fear for their lives or at least granny was. If this family was so slick they killed all of these folks w/o getting caught at least from the get-go would they be so foolish to buy BV and put it on a Mastercard? I don't think so. I don't know who killed these people I just hope they have the correct culprits. I know the LE and the state must have been under enormous pressure to solve this crime and this is the reason sometimes they go for the low hanging fruit.
     
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    https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/geo...appearance-01-ap-jc-181114_hpMain_4x3_992.jpg

    Here is a very good picture of his tattoos. Left arm has white supremacist tattoo. He also has a scorpion tattoo above and slightly going down his trigger finger. One meaning for a scorpion is to signify that you committed murder. The number of body segments is suppose to show how many murders you committed. Billy has 8 segments.

    The prosecution has a photo of one of Billy's tattoos submitted as evidence. I believe it's the scorpion tatoo.

    Wagner Arraignments---77 photos of the Wagner's in court and the court gallery. Includes a very good picture of the scorpion tattoo. Just click on it and it will enlarge, it's very clear.
     
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    Thank you! I can see it in that picture, I'm not familiar with any of those symbols but believe when you state the meaning.
     
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    Has anyone got an answer for this question, if a person is convicted of a felony can they go visit people in prison?
     
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    I don't think there is a lot of substance in the case against FW. I think it's more tactical to get her to talk. I am not sure it will work. JMO.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    As the old saying goes; A grand jury will indict a ham sandwich. It's up to the prosecution to prove their case though.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    I don't think they are allowed. Not even in county jails. I'm speaking from Ky., though, OH may be different.
     
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    IANAL, but it's up to Judge Deering. I hope the discussions are beginning about moving the trials. IIRC, those are the kinds of things they can discuss at status conferences. JW is the first of the four to have a status conference, so it will be interesting to see if it's discussed. It had been said earlier that it would be difficult to recruit enough jurors for all of these trials in Pike County alone.

    Billy Wagner's attorney, Mark Collins, has asked for a change of venue

    Defense attorney pushes to move Rhoden family murder trial

     
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    :eek:......Angela Jo Wagner's life behind bars......:confused:

    Current Inmate Listing ~ Delaware County Jail
    CLICK for larger image......

    [​IMG]
    Detainee Info
    Name:
    ANGELA JO WAGNER
    Booking Date:
    11/13/2018 6:35:00 PM

    VIDEO TOUR OF JAIL...length of video is 17:38......:eek:......:confused:

     
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    I like that idea.
     
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    Loomis- I had to come back to this post. I did not realize until today that MM represented Billy's sister in the past.
     
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