OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#46

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  1. Puzzles8

    Puzzles8 Well-Known Member

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    When you refer to historical references to "Piketon RR2", are you talking about the old USPS system - as in an address "Rural Route 2"?
     
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    Adding that white pines website is archived on the way back machine. It was active in ‘03 - ‘06. Billy and Angela were both named on the site in ‘03. His name is not on it later, but it did reference Angela as Owner and location at Bethel Hill. They had another loss due to fire and the site was removed a couple months later.
     

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    Yes
     
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    I admittedly don't know a lot (anything) about firearms and ammunition.
    Can someone give me a brief primer?
    Are certain sizes of ammo specific to certain types of weapons - shotgun, pistol, automatic weapon?
    And in general what are the types of weapons/ammo suited for? Close range, hunting, murder, loudness, etc?
    TIA
     
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    You are exactly right. I shudder to think of the extent of evil she has covered up all these years.
     
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    So, I can read this as "we pocketed the insurance money from this "accident"/liquidation sale and are no longer breeding labradoodles or goldendoodles"?
     
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    Rule 1: Follow the Money............
     
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    The Ohio Department of Taxation was also involved in the investigation....
     
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    That’s two electrical fires that resulted in the loss of animal lives. :(

    I looked up the church as well. The website was active in 2010. In 2011 an update was made via an announcement at the bottom that they decided not to have camp on the grounds in 2012, just a nightly revival. The website stayed the same, no updates, and even kept the 2012 message until sometime between March 2016 and Oct 2016. March 2016 shows the 2012 message still on the site, and the next web capture in October 2016 the message is removed and it references activities in 2016.

    The same photos on it today were on it in 2010.
     
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    Dunno if this has been mentioned..... but in AW discovery there is game cam footage from 51 UHR. I looked it up on Google Earth and there is only 1 home that seperates 51UHR from DR new home. 51UHR was for sale not long ago and there are pics online. The trailor on the property sits a pretty good distance from the road w/ a winding driveway. Looking at the landscape on Google Earth I cant imagne where a game cam could have been mounted in order for it to have any relevance to LE?
     
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    On FW's church website, they used to have a link(under "BELIEFS") that took you to a nationally recognized church organization. For the life of me, I can't remember the name - that website listed the "BELIEFS" of that type of church. Those were almost identical to the ones now shown on FW's church website. I think was Pentecostal.

    Mission Church-Piketon Ohio

    Interesting that now, the link to the national organization is gone from FW's church website. Perhaps after the embarrassment the W4 caused to their AK pastor, they have distanced themselves from the Wagner Family.
     
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    I thought it interesting that she has no help. Where did her help go?
     
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    I think FW might be having a "liquidity problem". She might not be able to pay them. I can only assume no animals are being sold. Only income (that we know of) would be rents from land contracts, and her salary and lease payments from Crystal Springs.
    Oh, and attorneys are expensive.
     
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    Have you checked the farm subsidy database recently?
     
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    Good point, I had forgotten about those.
    Are those paid monthly or annually?
     
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    I just looked. Here's a George, Jr. who received a nice chunk of change from 1995-2017:

    1 George Wagner Jr Piketon, OH 45661 $ 683,898.17
     
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