OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#47

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  1. Cool Cats

    Cool Cats COLUMBO "One more thing" MONK "A jungle out there"

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    This is the only mention of DNA evidence so far that I have heard of......
    If you find anything else please post......Thankx......

    Pike Co. massacre defense attorney wants DNA evidence info

    03/11/2019 (MOTION #6)---DEFENDANT'S DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY REGARDING DNA FILED. Attorney: NASH, JR, RICHARD M

    WAVERLY, Ohio — Defense attorneys for one of the suspects in the Pike County massacre want to know how DNA evidence was tested in the case.

    Attorney Richard Nash Jr. filed a motion Monday seeking information on DNA testing in the state's case against George Wagner IV, who, along with his parents and brother is accused of killing eight members of the Rhoden family in rural Pike County.

    As part of the discovery, Nash is seeking the case file, laboratory protocols, evidence chain of custody and durrent disposition, software used for DNA testing, data files, documentation of corrective actions for discrepancies and errors, information on lab personnel and more information.
    The defense attorneys have also filed motions this month seeking funds to bring in experts.
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    No DNA link in George Wagner IV's Rhoden murder case

    WAVERLY - There will be no DNA evidence presented in at least one of the cases against a family accused of plotting and murdering eight members of the Rhoden family in 2016.

    The new information was revealed during a brief pretrial hearing for George Wagner IV on Friday where he appeared for the first time without visible restraints. His attorney Charles Knight had filed a motion requesting discovery relating to receiving any DNA evidence against his client but dropped the motion after learning from special prosecutor Angie Canepa there wasn't any to disclose.

    "They do not have DNA evidence that links the victims to my client," Knight said after the hearing.
     
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  2. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    I get the feeling that FW may have had an inheritance at some point. No proof, just a feeling. I think that Bob was the wheeler dealer with the land and the horses.
     
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    Loomis124 Well-Known Member

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    I have a dumb question. In the 4 Ws cases, does the state pay for their commissaries?
     
  4. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    Unless it is different in Ohio, no. All commissary is based on what monies you have in your account. If an inmate is indigent, they do supply them with bare necessities. Pretty much family (sometimes a friend or two) pay for commissary.
     
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  5. Puzzles8

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    My question is where were the trailers from 3/10/2017 (closing date of Peterson road property) until JW dropped them off at the 41 property at the beginning of May 2017?

    For that matter, where did the W4 go from 3/10/2017 until they really left for AK?

    Next question is why did the W4 move the trailers to the 41 property in early May? Did they sense the raids on the FWF were coming and thought they could "hide" the trailers?

    Last picture I've seen of the trailers had all of their contents pulled out in piles. I think those were the trailers they eventually took up to AK. Who then/when repacked them for the trip? The W4 were claiming to be "on vacation" in AK then.

    ETA - i think the black and grey pickup trucks attached to the trailers at the 41 search location were the ones they took to AK.
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    Pictured, people in laser focus of multiple murder hunt | Daily Mail Online
     
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  6. Loomis124

    Loomis124 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks!
     
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  7. Loomis124

    Loomis124 Well-Known Member

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    It must be draining FW, keeping 4 of them going.
     
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    Scakes, there may be some
     
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  9. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Keep in mind, too that none of the W's DNA was on file with LE, so to them it was probably unknown DNA up until their arrests. Somehow, I doubt the W's attorneys allowed them to provide DNA samples when LE brought them in for questioning.
     
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    Does anyone know what Flying W Farm gross income is per year, compared to how many animals they would sell per year, just wondering?
     
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  11. Johnny B Bad

    Johnny B Bad Well-Known Member

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    LE probably got a hit on one or more of the 4 Wagners when they got the trash from the Jackson hotel, but don’t know which one of them it is yet. JMO
     
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  12. Puzzles8

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    But LE might have politely offered them a bottle of water or a bag of chips while they were being questioned....
     
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    Praying the Lord God in Heaven will bring justice to the victims and their families. After all the research I've done the past week, I am beginning to wonder if any of the 6 are who they claim to be (in name, with all the "aka" names that pop up)." It is scary. JMO
     
  14. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    True, but also possible their attorney advised them not to partake. I'm guessing quality defense attorneys these days advise clients of ways to avoid leaving any DNA when questioned by LE.

    ETA: I wonder if that's why some of their interviews were done by phone?
     
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  15. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    There seem to be a lot of "layers" to their lives and business dealings.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    I think the W4s and their trailers were at Peterson, until right before they left;

    When they took the trailers to the auto shop;


    Warrant: Investigators put GPS tracker on truck of Rhoden victim's brother

    Someone from their family, or they themselves, probably re-packed the trailers. LE doesn't put it all back together after a search. That's left for the person(s) whose property is searched.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    It is not cheap. A .15 cent pack of Ramen Noodles on the outside, is about .75 cents on the inside, for example.
     
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    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    Wonder if they offered them anything to drink while they were being questioned, or, might there have been items in the trash at the Days Inn that could have held DNA? :rolleyes: Just thinkin'.
     
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    Does anyone know if Lucy has attended any of the W4 hearings?
     
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  20. Puzzles8

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    I don't know if the 845 Bethel property was vacant, but maybe they went back there after the 3/10/2017 closing.

    Could have even had a bonfire to get rid of things, before the move to AK? Was that where the burnt VCR tape was found?

    Wasn't there a search at 845 Bethel? I can't remember what date. I'll try to find it tomorrow.
    Night all!
     
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