OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#48

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  1. Berrybell

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    Very well said!!!
     
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    ^ This!!!!
     
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  3. FrescaandSouthernComfort

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    There is an area of Adams County, Ohio, south of Peebles and west of Union Hill Road, called Brush Creek.
    Brush Creek flows into the Ohio River. Within the Brush Creek land, there is a Serpent Mound. Thought to
    be full of caves once the home of the Adena, it is rich in history. The land is protected. The people of the area
    are very proud of the mound and a lot of folk lore exists. Google Serpent Mound and read of the formation and
    history of the area.
     
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    One document, three people. HR, JW and GW4. JW and GW4 must have denied knowledge of it's creation? Wouldn't that make them victims of their grandmother's crime? I wonder if they can be supenaed in her trial to testify against her?
     
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    I don't think he had Serpent Mound in mind when he said that. I was thinking he probably meant a slithering snake, JMO
     
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    Yes I have read quite a lot in the past about Serpent Mound and it is my hope to one day visit there as I believe it has a lot of historical value for all NA's. NA culture is prevalent here as are many burial sites as well.

    I am very well versed in the traditions of NA's. I too follow the traditions of my people. I have no idea whether Reader is NA or has NA ancestors. But even if he is NA he is also the elected sheriff.

    Viewing him as an elected sheriff and possibly of NA descent I still think his statement about "serpent ways' and "false powers" to be odd. The NA's I know ( and I know many) do not speak that way not even among each other. It is a misconception by many non NA's to think that NA's run around talking about "forked tongues" and "crossed eyes". It just doesn't happen.

    What I also find odd is his very public postings of his "rants" as Junk called them. I prefer the term "temper tantrum". This is not the first time. If you will remember Reader posted a similar "rant" to a reporter working on the R murder cases. To me it is very unprofessional and makes him seem unstable.

    But that is just my opinion from a long ways away. He is not my sheriff but in all honesty I would not vote for a sheriff that displayed that kind of temper and talked of "serpent ways" and "false powers". But that is just me.

    JMO
     
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    Does anyone have a link to Billy's hearing yet? TY
     
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    Jmo I agree
     
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  9. FrescaandSouthernComfort

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    Research the folk lore.
     
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    We don't know what he knows. He was definitely unhappy...
     
  12. KentuckyMama

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    Have I missed the pretrial? Can't seem to find it.
     
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    No where was Sheriff Reader's heritage mentioned or any intent. I am of also of NA descent, and my thoughts are
    that was not the sheriff's reference.
     
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    It seems to be a very ancient site, burial, has stellar symbolism and also is a meteor impact area, highly revered since possibly BC times. What more recent lore is attached to it I haven't found much that would apply to the sheriff except the serpent is considered the bringer of knowledge, but he called the AG the serpent-like not himself. Maybe you could clarify how you feel the mound influenced the quote?
     
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    You're welcome. It was a quickie hearing, not much happened.
     
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    05/15/2019 DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE TO STATE'S REQUEST FOR DISCOVERY FILED COPIES FILED RETD TO COUNSEL

    Entry on FW'S court record today.

    This is the first I've seen in reference to the Discovery the Defense is obligated to provide to the State.
     
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    Cool Cats ....."The Hunters Became The Hunted".....

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    Thankx for confirming that Fred's church is from a converted barn---that's what I have always known about it. I know Fred's group home residents are not living in a converted barn, it's a modular.
     
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    Cool Cats ....."The Hunters Became The Hunted".....

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    Wagner patriarch makes court appearance in Pike County massacre case
    May 15, 2019



    Wagner patriarch in Pike County court
    By Sarah Hager | May 15, 2019 at 12:26 PM EDT - Updated May 15 at 4:41 PM
    PIKE COUNTY, OH (FOX19) - The Wagner family patriarch charged in the brutal, execution-style slayings of eight members of a Pike County family made his fifth court appearance Wednesday afternoon.

    READ MORE | Pike County Massacre

    George “Billy” Wagner III is one of four of his family members charged in the Rhoden family murders from April 2016.

    He, his wife Angela, 48, his sons George Wagner IV, 27, and Edward “Jake” Wagner, 26, are all charged with aggravated murder and face the possibility of the death penalty.

    His last court appearance March 29 lasted less than 10 minutes as did the appearance on Wednesday.

    PREVIOUS | Wagner patriarch makes quick court appearance

    Once again, Wagner appeared in plain clothing with no handcuffs or restraints.

    The judge asked Wagner if he was seeing his attorney as often as he wanted and needed to and he replied “yes”.

    Wagner responded “yes” when the judge asked him if he was satisfied with his representation.

    When asked if he had any complaints he wished to address to the court, Wagner said “not at this time”.

    The judge brought up a motion hearing set for Sept. 17 and said he thought that there were two or three items they might be able to address right away.

    Both sides agreed to a stenographic record of all proceedings in the case and having all sidebars transcribed.

    The other motion was in regard to the defendant appearing in regular street clothes with no restraints, which is already occurring, and both sides agreed to as well.

    All three motions were granted by the judge.
     
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