OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #27

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  1. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Here's what I hear:

    "We had to send a cop back in the house three times to find my grandson just because he's in between the bed and the wall."

    ETA: I missed the "bedfast" comment the first time. It is at abt 2:40. Wonder who the invalid is?
     


  2. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he's not happy.

    Who was the woman who whispered in his ear at the end? He kind of smiled and said he had to go.
     
  3. smc1225

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    I heard that too. And I don't remember that ever being mentioned.
     
  4. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    I've heard it before, but not sure if it was in the news media or a rumor. Supposedly, CRJr was found between the mattress and the wall. LE didn't find him at first.
     
  5. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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  6. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Verified Expert - Cultural & Behavioral Dynamics Staff Member Moderator

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  7. Audrey Horne

    Audrey Horne Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure that's JM's wife AM. She and Leonard are walking away with JM's and her son GM.
     
  8. RAISINISBACK

    RAISINISBACK On Time Out

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    Wouldn't that be between 1 AM and 7 AM? JM was texting JW not DR. No reason at this point to assume JW was in DR's trailer and that she was still alive at 2 AM.

    I too wonder what all these people were doing up so late. I can see DR, halfway, because she just got off work a little while before. I thought I saw somewhere that she was supposed to be back the next morning at 8 AM? JM should have been asleep if he worked at a job over 2 hours away also. JW maybe not so much since he stated he picked SR up early because he didn't have to work that weekend. AM I don't know about. She could have been just a straight up night owl. But this was on a Thursday night. People working the next day, kids at school. Not a night you generally stay up into the wee hours.
     
  9. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    More video at this link, including some with audio from JM's hearing

    http://www.dailyrecord.com/story/ne...icked-up-daddys-hand-and-just-fell/100742404/

    In it, the judge says the case will probably be referred to a grand jury. Check and see if you hear the same.

    Also, is the blond woman who whispered to LM April, JM's wife? In the video you can see her sitting next to a young man, assume that's JM's son.

    ETA: Let me find the right link for this

    Try this

    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/
     
  10. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Verified Expert - Cultural & Behavioral Dynamics Staff Member Moderator

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    I also picked up that JW wouldn't bring the child around.
     
  11. Audrey Horne

    Audrey Horne Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and yes.
     
  12. Tillicum

    Tillicum Well-Known Member

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    I think it's more common in Leonard's generation or older but not as pronounced in younger.
     
  13. Agent.99

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    Oh, Len, why couldn't you have just "remembered" the name of the friend JM bought the truck from?? You would have made me so happy!
     
  14. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, yes I'll change that.

    As for being night owls, some people are. Good question, though. Are we sure JM was working the logging job in Lima then? He may have been on a different job closer to home.
     
  15. GoBuckeyes

    GoBuckeyes Well-Known Member

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    JM, at least presently, has a job where he works during the night.
     
  16. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    That's the logging job in Lima, OH? They do their work at night? How do we know this? Have only seen a brief news media reference to his work in the last few days.
     
  17. RAISINISBACK

    RAISINISBACK On Time Out

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    LM is saying the text was sent at 8 PM or 9 Pm that night but JW did not get it until 2 AM. He also indicates JW would not bring SR to their house to receive a present. Also that police went into the house to find his grandson three times that day and couldn't find him because he was between the bed and the wall.

    So sad for LM.
     
  18. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    Yes, DR had worked a double shift that day/night and IIRC, she had to be at work again at 8 am. She really was a hard working person.
     
  19. Betty P

    Betty P Well-Known Member

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    If true, if he sent it at around 9 pm, but JW didn't get it until 2 AM, that can be verified. Changes a lot. Maybe JW had his phone off all day, or was using a different phone and didn't get JMs message until he powered up his regular phone.

    That also means LE knew when JM originally sent it too. Were they just leaving out that detail as a way to scare JM into talking?

    Assume DeWine and Reader retrieved all relevant internet, cell and other digital traffic right away. If Len is accurate about the 9pm sending of JM's text, then why did LE jump on JM and BJM so quickly and relentlessly? They'd better have more evidence than this to justify their focus on these two. Hoping it didn't cause them to overlook other possible suspects.
     
  20. rsd1200

    rsd1200 If there's no link, it's just my own 2¢.

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    Also, I'm almost certain he was calling "text" messages, "touch" messages. This would not be something I'd find uncommon either.
     
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