GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #3

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  1. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    I think the sheriff was being cautious about this. He said they're optimistic about finding the three alive. But, then said he has to be realistic, and taking into consideration the amount of blood in the home and the fact that no one has seen these three individuals for 5 days, he has to consider the possibility that they are dead.

    I think he's juggling the two - being optimistic on one hand and realistic on the other.
     


  2. Wondergirl

    Wondergirl Well-Known Member

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    A couple of Questions:

    1. Did Tina normally work an day or afternoon shift at Dairy Queen? Was her schedule "regular"?

    2. If she worked afternoons, did anyone keep an eye on the kids, or did they stay there on their own, "normally"?

    TIA
     
  3. maza

    maza Active Member

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    Is the the Columbus Fox News giving this interview?
     
  4. Sooner Fan#1

    Sooner Fan#1 Rest in Peace

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    Was known to got into the woods with a backpack and coming out with out it....frequented the gravel pit several times a week....ugh.
     
  5. Deplume

    Deplume New Member

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    Why would LE release photos of Stephanie's truck tomorrow if it was in her own garage?
     
  6. Sooner Fan#1

    Sooner Fan#1 Rest in Peace

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    I don't know maza...I have satelite and don't know channel it would be for anyone else. The segment is over but I posted the highlights
     
  7. Smugshots

    Smugshots New Member

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    I don't understand the connection with Stephanie here, it made sense before when they reported her car was in Tina's garage, but now they state it was not, it was in her own garage. How did Stephanie get to Tina's? Maybe Stephanie somehow knows MH and went to Tina's with him???
     
  8. raeann

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    He was asking area residents to report ANY observations or movements of these victims for the last few days before they went missing in addition to any information they might have since then.
     
  9. cluciano63

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    Maybe LE believes he used Stephanie's truck at some point but don't know where? LE may be hoping someone saw it?

    But why hold off on releasing any photos that could produce witnesses??
     
  10. Sooner Fan#1

    Sooner Fan#1 Rest in Peace

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    I don't know what this means???? But neighbor she had heard he had a hole in his ceiling.... hiding bodies? blech....I wonder if there other missing people in the area. This guy really sounds like a serial killer...Of course JMO
     
  11. C.Hound

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    I haven't seen anything about Tina's work schedule; however, I read somewhere her live-in ex BF, Greg Borders, usually watched the kids when she was at work. I can't recall if he actually stated this or if it was rumor, but he was quoted as saying he didn't return home after working his 4a - 4p shift Wednesday, electing instead to spend the night with his mother or a friend.
     
  12. SuziQ

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    Does anyone have any links for this? I've only seen one report that made that statement. All the others have said that the Jeep was in Tina's garage.

    It would be a help to get this cleared up.
     
  13. Smugshots

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    This is what makes no sense to me, and makes me wonder if this was somehow centered around Stephanie, because if her car was not Tina's house, no one reported her missing, no one can even say when they last saw her or spoke to her, how was she immediately tied to the family missing too?
     
  14. nervous_nellie

    nervous_nellie Carpe Noctem

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    maybe le is trying to mess with matthew hoffmans head?? i sure hope they are:)
     
  15. darlin gal

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    It's the same neighbor that said she saw them carry out a body bag to all the news media.


    I'd take what she says with a grain of salt. JMO
     
  16. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    you made me think of something... what if Stephanie was coming over to stay with the kids while Tina was at work since BF was out of town ((and yes, I also recall that article that said he would stay with the kids in the evening while she worked))

    I still have the feeling that Stephanie walked in on whatever was going on.

    further thought if this kid was in the tree trimming business... great way to approach the house as a ruse.... or fall cleanup etc
     
  17. cluciano63

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    LE included Stephanie in the missing people right away, though, didn't they? Before they had to try to determine who might be at fault? Maybe her purse was there in the house?
     
  18. C.Hound

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    Sooner Fan, I was wondering the same thing about other possible missing person cases.
     
  19. octobermoon

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  20. Leila

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    The sheriff stated it wasn't a home invasion. A reporter asked if it wasn't a home invasion, what was it. I had the impression that the sheriff was alluding to something that started out differently and then turned horrific.

    Media reports have consistently stated that there were no signs of a struggle. Did Hoffman come to the house, knock on the door and introduce himself as the son of neighbors on Apple Valley Road, and ask if there was any jobs that needed doing around the house, offering to do household repair??? In other words, was he invited in initially, as a means to get into the house, and after a while it turned real ugly??? That's one reason why the sheriff might say it wasn't a home invasion.
     
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