GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

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  1. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be true. :frown: I'm thinking of the logistics of putting three bodies into a hollow tree, and I can't see how an intact body would fit without it being dismembered?
     
  2. MCDRAW

    MCDRAW Well-Known Member

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    Per twitter: The tree has been cut down.
     
  3. Tikki

    Tikki New Member

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    Also I don't think he could carry all of them intact, SS weighed I think 130 lbs? I think this is why he needed the bags, to make several trips? jmo

    And this may sound strange, but when I saw this I wondered if he had heard about Zahra and this gave him ideas? But seems like it was planned before that came out, sick minds maybe think alike? jmo
     
  4. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    I think the fact that he placed the three bodies into a hollow tree is a big clue in regards to this being a premeditated homicide. A hollowed out tree is not that common. He had to have scouted out wooded areas looking for a hollowed out tree in advance. I can't see him killing Tina, Kody, and Stephanie and then going out to look for a hollow tree.
     
  5. Wil.J

    Wil.J New Member

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    This link is the map (sorry, I can't remember who originally posted it), and you will see that SS's house is not too far from the TH family residence (although the Hermann residence is somewhat more remote).

    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...0958,-82.40208&spn=0.001809,0.003264&t=h&z=19

    In my mind, the significant thing is that the place where they were found was about 12 miles away (more or less NW) from the SS and TH homes.
     
  6. gxm

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    Good point. Now I'm wondering when the comments were posted. Were they posted before MH was arrested, or after? IMO, to be that close to the truth, the person had to have been told by MH, or maybe MH had fantasized out loud about "how to hide a body" and it's someone who had heard his twisted ramblings. Though you'd think they would have just gone to the police. It's just too close, and creepy, for coincidence.
     
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    jazzelwood New Member

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    Fast Eddies said he was a crappy tree trimer
     
  8. nao

    nao New Member

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    If you layed 3 bodies on a tarp you could slide it very easily. A decent tarp wont shred and you can haul alot of weight and they really do slide easy. A landscaper gave me this tip when i was clearing brush and branchs with a wheel barrow, using the tarp cut the clean up time by 3/4, and you can slide an amazing amount of weight. jmo
     
  9. mikeysmommom

    mikeysmommom "A grandchild fills a space in your heart that you

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    He climbed up the tree so the top part had to have been hollow.I wonder if he made the hole bigger?I guess LE could tell when they examine the tree.Might have cut it down to examine it for evidence.What a sick and depraved mind!!!
     
  10. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    I'm wondering about something................is it deer-hunting season in Ohio right now? I'm originally from upstate NY and I remember that deer season opens about a week prior to Thanksgiving. The hunters hope for light snow to be able to track the deer.

    I think it's possible that hunters might have found something eventually.
     
  11. chelle500

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    I bet the person who said that wasn't thinking inside a tree. More like in the tree top, if that makes sense.
     
  12. tfrohning

    tfrohning Rest in Peace

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    Hmmm maybe alread posted and i just catchup

    They Call it Dendrophilia...
    Dendrophilia refers to those people who are turned on by trees. Yes, sexually aroused by foliage.

    Because trees were ancient symbols of fertility, they presented a visual embodiment of growth. In some old rites, the virile males would go out into the forest and ejaculate on the trunks of the trees, as a symbolic fertilization of Gaia.

    An observer of the Mehinaku tribe of South America during the 1960's, had this to say
    more at link
    http://www.sexscrolls.com/portal/dend.html
     
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    Sneechwatcher New Member

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    JoeFromLB Well-Known Member

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    Assuming for the moment the comments were posted before his arrest, could the poster have been MH himself??

    I'm getting the idea here that he wants the whole world to know exactly what he did to these people.
     
  15. mikeysmommom

    mikeysmommom "A grandchild fills a space in your heart that you

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    It was posted after he was in custody, IIRC it was the night before they found the bodies.
     
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    chances are, he probably knew about the tree from all of his wanderings....he probably squatted in that tree and pretended to be an animal and lurked at any activities outside...

    this guy is pure evil mixed with psychosis...
     
  17. Leila

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    I agree. Going back to some of the first reports, the sheriff would only says there was something "unusual" in the house in regards to the conditions, and a significant amount of blood. It was the curious wording that has had many here wondering. There was something highly unusual about the inside of the house.
     
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    I don't know. Maybe my imagination is getting the best of me but IIRC the commenter said to look inside a hollow tree. And the tone of the comment was rather insistent. Almost like instructions. But if the comments are removed then we won't be able to go back to them to verify any of this.
     
  19. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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    This may be the case for whatever whacked out reason...I certainly wish he would've climbed his azz in the hollowed out tree and well, made that his final resting place..He could be all safe and happy in his tree and become one with the damn thing..

    just makes me sick what absolute criminally sick ppl are everywhere..why in his previous trouble with the law was he never put into a mental facility and medicated? these parents had to know their son was ill..why not anything done?

    neighbors from years and years and years ago all have the same statements that there was obviously something wrong with Hoffman..scary wrong!
     
  20. Leila

    Leila Active Member

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    I know Alice Donovan's sister. That was another heartbreaking case, and I'm glad Alice's remains were found after all those years.
     
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