OH OH - Tyler Davis, 29, Columbus, 24 February 2019 #3

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  1. penelopemcswain

    penelopemcswain Well-Known Member

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    Respectfully, I don’t think hypothermia is a factor at 55 F if you’re moving around at all and not in water. Plenty of people work outside all day long in temperatures less than that. I believe that is more of a possibility if he was passed out, as you say, but even then it would be rare for a healthy person in temps above 50 F. 50 F water temperature, of course, would most likely cause hypothermia. I just wanted to make that clarification.
     
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  2. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member

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    Many interesting thoughts in your post! As far as the possibility he wasn't tying to get back to the Hilton - in one of the voice navigation requests he specifically asks how to get to the Hilton and even says his room number. It's certainly possible he was trying to go somewhere else, but he was alone with no one listening and stated the hotel name, room number, and city. To me, that indicates he was sincerely intending to go back to his room at the Hilton.

    The oval is not really woods as it appears from above. It's a fairly well-manicured area with trees that is right in the middle of a very busy office park. There are walking paths throughout that are used daily by employees, even in winter. It's much less dense than it appears from above. It is frequently maintained by landscapers and there aren't hazards or water or underbrush or anything like that.

    I do not believe the entire Abbott campus has been searched adequately.
     
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  3. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member

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    50° air temperature (and 10mph winds) plus alcohol intoxication could absolutely result in hypothermia.

    If he encountered water and was wet, hypothermia is even more likely.
     
  4. penelopemcswain

    penelopemcswain Well-Known Member

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    yes, hypothermia *could* happen in the 50’s under the influence but is highly unlikely. I could give a million more examples and data of how unlikely this is...coming from a colder climate it’s just..not a thing that happens, except in extreme cases or if water is involved.
    Hypothermia in water is a much different story. So, yes, if water was involved he definitely could have suffered from hypothermia. But my point is, you’re not going to find that a normal, relatively healthy, relatively dry man just “succumbed” to the cold at 50F so I think we can rule that out.
     
  5. Vail

    Vail Justice for Kara & Jessica

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    This is my thought as well.
     
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  6. medea13

    medea13 Well-Known Member

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    When I think of this case, I still think that maybe he accidentally stepped into an open storm drain while he was looking up, trying to find the hotel sign in the distance.
     
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  7. Truman

    Truman Well-Known Member

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    An accident of this sort is definitely a possibility.

    We all know that lawyering up and being uncooperative with police does not necessarily mean a person is guilty of anything - just like being cooperative doesn't mean a person is innocent - but it certainly raises questions.
     
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    BlinkOfAnI Well-Known Member

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    Obviously it's been a while since I checked back about Taylor. Thanks to all who posted the link to that video. Sounds like Taylor was definitely trying to find his way back. Can't believe he hasn't been found yet!
     
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  9. kaykay543

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    I noticed on his official facebook page his best friend says they think he is being trafficked. I wonder if the police told him that since they said they think hes alive? I was really shocked at that statement. There is a rumor going around locally that traffickers are picking up men in Columbus to torture etc. I sure hope its just a rumor.

    His friend also says that no way would Tyler have gone into those swampy areas even drunk. He said he hated to get his shoes dirty.

    His page also said all the summer searched were cancelled due to Covid.

    I don't think people that don't live here realize what a bad area this is. I would never shop there at Easton alone day or night. Lots of gang activity in this area. The area he was walking in is notoriously crime ridden. Which shocks me that his friend let him walk off alone since he is local and has to know the reputation of the area.
     
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    AzPistonsGirl Well-Known Member

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    trafficked?

    Trafficking men to torture?

    This is not at all how trafficking works. What a surprisingly odd allegation.
     
  11. SleuthyLou

    SleuthyLou Well-Known Member

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    I always feel like trafficking it what guilty parties say to deflect attention from themselves. Seems off. And I was under the impression that that are was a new and trendy hotel and shopping center, I need to re-familiarize myself with his disappearance. This case has always stumped me.
     
  12. Truman

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    I very respectfully disagree with @kaykay543 's description of the area. The Hilton is a luxury hotel, Easton is a high-end suburban shopping center, and the surrounding area is mostly corporate offices. These businesses are heavily patrolled by both private security and Columbus Police. These are not inner city streets and alleyways. There are "bad" neighborhoods several miles away, but the area Tyler was in when his phone last pinged does not have a reputation for violent crime.

    The area near the strip club they visited is a different story...but we know from the security footage that he made it back to Easton safely.

    I do not believe the entire Abbott campus has been searched adequately.
     
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  13. steff13

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    That surprises me. I live in the Dayton/Cincinnati area, but I shop at Easton fairly regularly. Especially now that my niece is at OSU. I would have never hesitated to go there.
     
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    I can’t wrap my mind around the trafficked/torture scenario. To “steal” a man out in a wooded sort of area in the middle of the night is pretty preposterous. Usually the people put into trafficking situations have been demoralized and manipulated...

    I think if someone is near blackout drunk, they can stumble into anything without even understanding where they’re going. Unfortunately so many young men succumb after a night of drinking and getting lost :(
    I hope Tyler is found and brought to rest.
     
  15. Rural_PC

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    Missing people have shown up close to areas that have previously been searched. And I still think it is most probable that Tyler is near to the area.

    However, the longer this goes with no sign of Tyler, perhaps something bonkers happened that night. Something like a car full of younger folks pull up and offer him a ride, and then realize he is intoxicated and mess with him. Perhaps they take something too far, IDK. It is such a strange case.
     
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  16. courtky

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    I'm from the area and have to agree with Kay partially. Easton Town Center is okay in the day, have only ever felt unsafe once in the daytime there. I have even slept in my car in the parking garage a few times. But at night it is dangerous and there is gang activity. There's homeless people in the area as well. The Walmart north of the mall is probably the worst Walmart in the city... always sketchy characters there. To the south where his phone last pinged is dicey.

    While it is unsafe I don't know if I believe he actually encountered anyone. I think he just wandered into a wooded area and hasn't been found yet. Most of the buildings in the area kind of look similar, especially in the dark and being drunk. I think he could've saw the Courtyard by Marriott (opposite side of where the Hilton was) in the distance and thought that was the Hilton. He got close enough and saw it wasn't and kept walking... where from there? I don't know. I hope he is found soon, this case really bothers me.
     
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    psych-nurse Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you 1000%. I'm at Easton frequently and my daughter works in the town center. I'm a worry-wart when it comes to her and always encourage her to have a security guard escort her to her car after dark. It's a nice place to shop the vast majority of the time but there are robberies, shootings and gang activity at times as well. I've said before a few threads back that I truly believe he did get turned around and mistake the Marriott for the Hilton. The swampy area on Sunbury Rd between Morse and Easton Way gives me the creeps. I've never heard of a search there and its always full of standing water. This is right down the hill from the Marriott.
     
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    Wonder if LE checked camera footage at the Marriott or other hotels in the area???
     
  19. kaykay543

    kaykay543 Well-Known Member

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    Columbus is one of the nations highest for human trafficking. There have been several men his age go missing. Also LE states that they believe he is alive. But they don't think he deliberately left. So what does that leave? Human trafficking of men does happen. Some say torture, some say labor, some say sex.

    I don't think that people from other areas understand that this mall/area is known to have gang activity, gang fights, shootings etc. I get you guys think its safe during the day. Myself I would never shop there ALONE day or night. For sure night time is more dangerous. Just because a mall has high end shops/hotels doesn't mean its safe.
     
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  20. penelopemcswain

    penelopemcswain Well-Known Member

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    so, I think it’s highly unlikely that he was trafficked, but I think you bring up a really good point about the shoes. Yes, he was clearly kind of drunk...but walking through a swamp...in a very commercialized area when there is absolutely zero need or reason to do so has always struck me as almost completely implausible. I just don’t see it. I can see certain people doing something like that, even people I know, but Tyler just does not seem the type, no matter how drunk he was. He’s clearly not a nature boy or “rugged” by any stretch of the imagination according to those who knew him.

     

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