OH OH - Tyler Davis, 29, Columbus, 24 February 2019

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  1. happyday

    happyday Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it’s hard to know if anything at all is true because we have nothing to back up what she’s saying. I’ve said all along that I lean towards this being a drunken accident and honestly her story seems very plausible to me. I know I’ve been in some pretty bad drunken situations when I was younger (thank goodness no one ended up missing) and this rings true to me for the most part. However it could all be a big lie—no way for us to know! LE should know a lot though, and I hope they’ve got a good theory and evidence—especially camera footage.
     
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    happyday Well-Known Member

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    Those were the same 2 times that I went hmmmmmmm.
     
  3. DianeElaine

    DianeElaine Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, what sleepingdawg78 said. Great first post and welcome to WS!
     
  4. heather7777

    heather7777 Well-Known Member

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    Great post and great catching her deflecting! I hadn’t caught it.
     
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  5. sleepingdawg78

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    thanks i do have a LOT more, will take me a while to write out and not sure ill have it done tonight.
     
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  6. sleepingdawg78

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    Ok...
    to follow up my last post I believe theres many key moments over the course of the interview and previous evidence which dont make sense to me. Maybe they will to others, hence the reason im posting.

    1. BDs own version of events claimed she was clearly in the frame of mind where she needs help searching, and was panicking, yet this best friend left ?

    What, really ? you're just going to peace out right now and she will have to call another friend to come help her to use HIS car to search for Tyler, because "the best friend" has driven off home in his own car ?

    This is the same friend who had a keycard to the hotel room, so at worst he could have taken a nap there and still been around to help if required at a moments notice. Also, he and Tyler were supposedly drunk to the point they fell asleep in the Uber just an hour before, so whys he driving home ? Surely the plan all along was for him to have the keycard as they knew theyd be drinking and he could crash at the hotel after the Uber.

    Not to mention its claimed "the friend" saw Tyler while searching and then left him again.
    Yet, she stands by "the friend" after ALL of this and calls him a good guy, id be FURIOUS, maybe just me ? but I think it would be natural for anyone to be really angry at "the friend" - this was the friend close enough to design their wedding ring too ?

    I also have no doubts the Uber driver will verify their story up to the point he dropped them off, both male passengers asleep, she wakes "the friend" up and then they help Tyler out of the car.


    2. A camera showed what was at one time believed to be Tyler heading to the hotel. Later on it was discovered it was actually "the friend" who was on this footage.

    Pretty simple here, who originally ID`d the footage, did BD or "the friend" ever ID the footage to be that of Tyler ?
    I hope they had never mistakenly ID`d "the friend" as Tyler previously.....I guess thats something only LE would know for sure at this point.
    But the fact Tylers friends were saying it had been ID`d as Tyler previously suggests its possible someone did ID the person in the footage as Tyler, and who would LE likely ask first to ID this footage ?


    3. Lack of camera evidence. Lack of 3rd party sightings

    So, other than the camera picking up "the friend" at one point, Tyler himself has essentially vanished into thin air, theres a lot of cameras in the area, it was unfortunate he may have gone into the direction of where the fewest (or maybe even no cameras) were. Just another possible unfortunate event ? They also have no one come forward from the missing flyers to say they saw someone walking around drunkenly that night ? again, unfortunate.


    4. Google location services pinged at Ross Park / Abbot labs.
    Ive seen people post that the phone pinged here, but I havent noticed (maybe it has been mentioned) that the I-270 travels southbound very close to this building, probably close enough for a phone from a car to ping at Abbot labs.
    Is this a possible reason it pinged at this location rather than it pinging from the other side ?
    If it was on the other side, there seems to be a large, and i would imagine abandoned car park at that time of day right there.


    5. Why did she tell us the story about how she was worried about possibly having her drinks spiked ?

    If Tylers body ever turns up with traces of a drug in it though....
    She also mentioned an altercation between Tyler and bouncers, would love to know their statements on what Tylers condition was, drunk or more ?


    6. In part 2 of the TCG @ 35:20...

    she gets very flustered about a question regarding whether her friend could be involved.
    "i dont think he had any part in.....I think it was really the wrong time..... wrong situation.....at that time like when we were doing it.. like when all this was happening...." then some garbled speech.

    When "we were doing it ?" doing what ? Maybe she mis-spoke, but why so nervous at this point and not to the other questions ? she`d been pretty calm otherwise throughout.

    Thoughts welcome !
     
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  7. sleepingdawg78

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    great point ! as for one reason - if you know hes not coming back it all makes perfect sense, and a very easy oversight.
     
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  8. ohio2013

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    I'm leaning towards he was either abducted or killed without a trace to be found. It makes no sense that there's none of his items found around that area that he could have dropped or whatever. This case is crazy
     
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  9. ALS89

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    Nothing about this case adds up. I know sometimes we here on Websleuths tend to overthink or over analyze situations or evidence (or lack of), but I really don’t feel like this is one of those times.

    What really gets me is LE’s complete lack of presence on this case. They literally reported him as “presumed missing” to the media with just a description of from where and what he was wearing. The AG flyer had more info than LE let out.

    Other disappearances, like Amber Evans which was just a few days after Tyler, had plenty of media attention despite having markers of a suicide. They commented on and did very public water searches complete with interviews of police. Columbus PD has many tweets and stories on FB about others missing as well, and plenty of puff pieces about community efforts, but no tweets about Tyler and from what another poster said, only one initial mention on their FB page.

    No pleas for public help...
    No interviews...
    No flyers or canvassing of the area...
    Not even a crum...

    Even when asked for an interview by DATELINE of all sources you turn it down?? We’re talking about Dateline here, the holy grail of true crime media. Why? Everyone knows that the first 72 hours in a missing persons case is critical to retrieval of evidence and witnesses as well as recovery of remains.

    And why turn down free professional search teams??? LE appears so heartless and ambivalent to this case to those of us who track it. Obviously they can run their investigation however they want, but it seems like they would be working against themselves by not finding potential witnesses with fresh minds or using help offered by highly effective professionals.

    It just makes me wonder what they know that we don’t that would make that kind of information withholding a benefit to them.

    And all the stuff with BD and the friend... just absolutely odd behavior, even if they were on drugs. Then the TCG podcast with the deflecting of important answers like why her cell phone didn’t die, and if the hotel cameras would have confirmed her story etc. Just plain weird, even if you do believe she sounds sincere or whatever, how could you explain that? It’s obvious she didn’t want to answer those questions because she didn’t answer them directly at all.

    And why delete questions about those things and more on your FB forum and block the people who ask them, then just make the whole thing private? I can’t see any reason that LE would have told her she’s not allowed to tell anyone that cameras confirm her or the friends whereabouts. That would have no benefit to LE.

    And for real I know there’s a million Apple engineers out there scratching their heads on how if her phone was so close to dead that she absolutely had to charge it and she only charged it a few minutes that it stayed charged for several more hours of calls and texts and pulling up social media. That phone would be the equivalent of the golden goose. Unless it’s battery wasn’t low at all...
     
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  10. ohio2013

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    It is indeed crazy! I've been to Easton quite a few times. If you're not from around there, I can see someone getting lost, especially if they're drunk. Comparing this case to a few I follow, police don't seem to be doing anything. I remember following the Dakota James case from Pittsburgh, and they put out an image/video of him from the last time a camera caught him. If Pittsburgh can have a bunch of cameras, I don't see why Easton doesn't have any that caught him on camera.
     
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  11. heather7777

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    Great post!! And I agree It really sticks out that she went out of her way to mention being worried about her drink bring spiked, And didn’t she say that Tyler took a swig of it? I could be wrong but I thought she said that. Could she have orchestrated This whole thing? If she was so drunk how in the heck does she remember every detail of this night anyway?
     
  12. mrstfs

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    Sleepingdawg- Did you hear her on part 1 of the TCG interview around :39, when she talked about trying to contact him (when he was out walking) via Facebook video chat? I thought she said “he looked” then quickly changed what she was going to say.
     
  13. mrstfs

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    Did anyone find an Instagram account for Tyler? I couldn’t find one.
     
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    Yes I heard that.
     
  15. sleepingdawg78

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    thanks ! yeah. i didnt really notice this, sounds like she was about to describe what she could see on the facebook video chat ? She was talking about video chatting to maybe see where he was at, and shes describing how she hoped to see stores or locations at the Easton Town Center***, then she says "it kinda looks..." then changes what she was going to say like you said.
    She didnt mention facebook chatting Tyler IIRC ? im sure i would remember as that would be a pretty big deal. It makes the fact that it seems like she was about to describe what she could see via video chat interesting.

    *** why would she expect to see him near stores in Easton Town Center ? he walked off in the opposite direction and all their search efforts at that time had focused on that opposite direction, to the point she was waiting at the side of the hotel and not at the front or the lobby.

    This story stinks imo. Maybe theres a good explanation, but the inconsistencies are mounting up.
     
  16. ChickaDee221

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    There is something I just can't over.
    Well two things.

    First and formost... Her husband (as described by her and noted by the Captain) was disoriented when he got out of the Uber. So much that I believe it was described as "what, we're staying here?"
    Why would she think that leaving her phone number in the room next to the landline phone was more of a solution to (which leads to my second point) getting Tyler to contact her than having the front desk call as soon as he would come in the lobby?
    By her own account he was confused, disoriented, and EXTREMELY EXHAUSTED.
    That means he would have had to make it to the right hotel, up to the right floor, and into the right room to then use a phone he would be unfamiliar with.
    So which is it? He was confused, disoriented, and exhausted... Or he was in his right mind enough to make it back to their room?

    I will then lead into a 3rd inconsistency that is extremely confusing.
    She says Tyler called at 4 10 am to say he could see the hotel and would be there in a few minutes. At approximately 4 15 am, the friend is caught on camera. She states that both of them walked to find Tyler, then split up and that's why only the friend was on the camera and not her.
    So, he is on his way back, and within minutes, she is walking away from where Tyler says he is heading to find him. If she knew he was heading her way, why would she leave the location to which he was heading? Especially if she doesn't know which direction he would be coming from.
    Like Judge Judy says... "If it doesn't make sense..."
     
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    was the friend seen walking both to and from the direction he was caught on the camera ? (i honestly dont know the answer, all that is reported is he was caught on camera)
    If not, has he explained the route he took when searching ?

    Too much doesnt make sense
     
  18. ChickaDee221

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    I'm not too sure. She gives her explanation in the middle of part 2. As with everything else, nothing about it makes sense.
     
  19. ChickaDee221

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    I'm currently searching the thread (working backwards. I'm to page 38). It's listed that a statement was made in regards to the professional search team. When I find it, I will try to figure out how to get that info to you.
     
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    I listened to both parts of the podcasts, but I fell asleep toward the end of part 2/ Part 1 was really weird, off, and odd to me.

    The second one was still odd, but a little less so (I missed the end few minutes ). I cannot imagine being that perky talking about my missing husband.

    Something is missing from this story.

    Was the friend even really asleep in the front seat of the uber?

    Why so little footage on security cams?

    No way would I let my drunk husband who fell out of an uber and didn't know where we were ...just wander off in a strange town.

    The friend knows the husband is missing and just says see ya and goes home?

    How did BD and TD get to Columbus? Did they have a car there?

    I have so many questions.
     
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