OK OK - Clinton, WhtMale 1803UMOK, 16-20, may be from St Louis, Jun'72

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  3. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If you are going to start a thread, please provide something more than just a Porchlight link.

    Here is the DoeNetwork page for this John Doe:

    The Doe Network
    Case File: 1803UMOK
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/1803umok.html

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    Left: Facial touch up based on original autopsy photo by T. Schinnerer; center and right: Facial reconstruction based on morgue photo by H. Pratt, OSBI forensic artist

    Unidentified Male
    Date of Discovery: June 26, 1972
    Location of Discovery: Clinton, Custer County, Oklahoma
    Estimated Date of Death: Same day
    State of Remains: Recognizable
    Cause of Death: Pedestrian/Auto accident​

    Physical Description
    ** Listed information is approximate

    Estimated Age: 16-20 years old
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Height: 5'8" to 5'9"
    Weight: 140 lbs.
    Hair Color: Dark brown, long but less than shoulder length. Unshaven.
    Eye Color: Hazel

    Distinguishing Marks/Features: Circumcised.

    Dentals: Not available.
    Fingerprints: Available. Fingerprints taken by Clinton Police Department or Oklahoma Highway Patrol and sent to FBI. Current location unknown.
    DNA: Not avaiable.​
    Clothing & Personal Items
    Clothing: Never Iron Campus blue double knit shirt, blue jeans, brown 30" belt with Captain's buckle, brown leather boots with 16" top and 1" strap with brass rings on each side (size 9 to 9 1/2).

    Jewelry: White gold promise ring with "TC968" engraved inside the band.

    Additional Personal Items: One pack of Marlboro cigarettes. A "St.Louis County, Missouri stamp #42289" found in a pocket. Armband on the left arm which appears to have been made of denim. Blue mimeo bond sheet with hand-ruled lines listing dates 06/16-06/30 (possible work schedule or record of employment?) Written on sheet - Mollincrodt or Mellincrodt. (possibly Mallinckrodt from Saint Louis?)​

    Case History

    The decedent was a hitchhiker or pedestrian hit by a car near the overpass on U.S. Highway 183 to I-40. He was found lying some 6 feet off the shoulder of I-40 going West at approximately 375 yards east of the overpass of U.S. Highway 183. He was released from St. Louis jail, one day prior.​
     
  4. Fuuro

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    I've looked the cases of missing males from 1968-1972 and none of them fit the description of this person. The closest one I found is someone who went missing in 1969 at the age of 23, which would make him 28 when this person was found and I'm pretty sure this isn't him:

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/heflin_john.html

    I'm thinking that this unidentified person was very estranged from his family and was a drifter, so he never was reported missing.
     
  5. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    Here's his NamUs: https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2991

    Ruleouts:

    Peter J Bonick 1953 California
    Harold Dewayne Costello Unknown Oklahoma
    Warren Niederfringer 1948 Connecticut
    Charles Edward Propst 1953 Missouri
     
  6. EmiLove832

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    Wait.. He was released from jail one day prior to being hit by a car? They didn't have his name when he was jailed?

    Strange. I'm also curious about the promise ring. Why do they think it was a promise ring?
     
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    That was my first thought as well. He was in jail and they don't have his name? Not even a false name?:thinking:
     
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    It could be that he was in the jail for a night for being drunk or something and maybe he refused to give a name and was still released or gave an obvious fake one. But still even a false name could be useful information it could be an Alias of his.
     
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  11. madamx

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    Yes everything here is so Vague.. I totally agree if he was arrested.. he had to give some name? anything would help.. and also it would be interesting to know why he was arrested. that also could help.. and yes EmiLove832 I totally agree.. how do they know this was a promise ring, what did it look like?? other that having engraved TC968
    Which maybe could be his first initial (T) and the other persons first initial (C) and the month (9) and year(68)



     
  12. madamx

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    I found this guy

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4724dmms.html
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    John Lloyd Heflin
    Case Classification: Missing
    Missing Since: November 21, 1968
    Location Last Seen: Starkville, Oktibbeha Co. Mississippi

    Date of Birth: January 31, 1944
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 24
    Race: White
    Gender: Male
    Height at Time of Disappearance: 5'5 to 6ft
    Weight at Time of Disappearance: 160-185 lbs
    Hair Color: Brown
    Eye Color: Hazel
    Alias(s) / Nickname(s): Buddy
     
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    I like John Heflin for this one, although his age would have been a little bit too high. Also, NamUs says he had a scar on his lower abdomen which is not reported for the UID. But other than that I did consider him a possibility.

    This boy looks similar too if you imagine him a few years older.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4637/405/
    The circumstances here seem unlikely because most kids that disappear don't turn up years later on the other side of the country, but there are also very few circumstances detailed for both the UID and the MP so I wouldn't count it out just because of that.
     

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