OK - Donna Haraway, 27, Ada, 28 April 1984

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  1. thelocator77

    thelocator77 New Member

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    I am curious as to how to go about researching an old case in Oklahoma. I am a historical researcher, but have never really handled a cold case. What steps would I have to go through to obtain the police files on this case which is from the mid-1980's. This case is from Seminole, OK. and may be related to the Denise Haraway case that is the subject of "The Dreams of Ada" by Robert Mayer and frequently mentioned in "The Innocent Man" by John Grisham. The case I am researching is the Patty Hamilton case. I think that if this case can be solved, the it may help prove that Tommy Ward and Karl Fontenot were wrongfully convicted in the Denise Haraway case. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    HoneyWest Active Member

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    Interesting case, I need to read up on this more. I'm assuming that law enforcement considers the case closed, correct? I can't think of a way to get police files, but you might start with the county court clerk's office to see if you can at least make (or buy) copies of the trial transcripts. Also, if you know of any new evidence, you can petition the county for a grand jury to review. You'll need many signatures, depending upon the population of that county.

    I'm an Okie, too and wish you good luck with your endeavors. For some reason, it's really difficult to get LE or OSBI to re-open a case.
     
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    prd2bokie New Member

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    I'm an Okie!
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    The 2008 murders in rural Welch of Leota and William Huls is a crime that, likely, should have been solved in the first few days after it was committed. But, like many crimes in this area (see Freeman/Bible killings and kidnappings - also in rural Welch), it has not been solved, and may never be.

    $10,000 reward offered in 2008 double murder (koamtv.com)
     
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    Move joe neff to cold cases please, that deserves more light, and isnt getting any in the main thread it has IMO.
     
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    frybreadlady Verified Insider

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    what happened to Patty? thanks
     
  8. thelocator77

    thelocator77 New Member

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    Patty Hamilton was abducted from her job in the middle of the night. A case very similar to the Ward/Fontenot case of a year later. Her remains were found ten years later. No arrests ever made and it seems no one cares about it anymore.
     
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    I am convinced that two innocent men - Tommy Ward & Karl Fontenot - have spent 20+ years in OK prisons for a crime they could not have committed. John Grisham in his only nonfiction, THE INNOCENT MAN, about 2 other Ada, OK men who were wrongly accused & put away - (1 just days from execution when DNA proved his innocence) references Fontenot & Ward as innocent men who were easy targets of the same DA who used the same jailhouse snitch in both cases along w/coerced confessions. I would like to be in touch with others who are interested in this case.
     
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    Ellicnov, I am very interested in this case as well and have actually corresponded with Karl on several occasions. I would be interested in hearing from you as well.
     
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    I would like to be in touch with anyone who knows about these two cases. I am extremely interested - have been in touch w/Ward & Fontenot - There are some things going on at this time - including a reward in the Ada News for $5,000 for information leading to the killer of Denise Haraway. Please e-mail me at: falselyaccused1984@gmail.com. Ellicnov in SC
     
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    Ellicnov did you receive my email in ref to patty
    Hamilton?
     
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    freekarlfontenot.webs.com
     
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    This man was wrongfully accused of a crime and has served nearly 30 years in prison. He now has a shot at getting exonerated. Now we need to find out who really killed Donna Denise Haraway.

    www.freekarlfontenot.com

    facebook.com/freekarlfontenot
     
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    This man was wrongfully accused of a crime and has served nearly 30 years in prison. He now has a shot at getting exonerated. Now we need to find out who really killed Donna Denise Haraway.

    www.freekarlfontenot.com

    facebook.com/freekarlfontenot
     
  17. bessie

    bessie <b><span style="color:#007C00;">WS Administrator</ Administrator

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    The first thing we need to do is change the title of the thread to add Donna's name.

    A few details I was able to locate on the web.

    Ada Angry About Image Given by Book on Clerk's Murder
     
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    I have a few questions.

    Both Ward and Fontenot confessed to the abduction and being present during the murder. I understand that some confessions are obtained through coercion but to have both defendants confess independently is difficult to get past. If innocent why did Mr. Fontenot confess and what led him to recant? Did he recant only after the remains were found and with the knowledge that it appeared the victim had previously given birth?

    If indeed the victim had previously given birth how do we know this wasn't an earlier hidden pregnancy?

    Did either defendant have a criminal record?





    I'm all for exonerating the innocent if guilt points to somewhere other than the convicted. But in this case the jury has spoken through as far as I know a fair and impartial process and it would take more than a book from a anti-DP former politician to overturn no matter how good of a writer he is.
     
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    bessie <b><span style="color:#007C00;">WS Administrator</ Administrator

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    Pre-Trial Hearing Begins for Ada Men
    The Durant Daily Democrat - Jan 8, 1985

    A Pontotoc County district court jury has recommended the death penalty...
    The Durant Daily Democrat - Sept 26, 1985

    Report sparks debate over innocence of Karl Fontenot
     
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    You should really read The Dreams of Ada. This men confessed to what they were directed to, but maintained their innocence throughout the trial. Their stories did not match and NO witness identified Karl and said that Tommy "looked" like one of them.
     
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    Up for parole in February:

    http://newsok.com/after-nearly-40-y...ma-man-awaits-parole-decision/article/5389339
     

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